If Peter can't stop old Maskaev, then he's not really a world class heavyweight

[Derranged_]

I agree, I rarely disagree with what Tunney says, but to me this thread is very biased. He's basically saying, "I'm picking Maskaev to win, but if Peter doesn't win by KO, he's garbage" Where's the logic in that?

There is no logic in it; it's pure garbage and it shouldn't be taken seriously...

[pesticid]

The only significant wins that Peter has are against an old, fat Toney.
The only significant wins that Maskaev has are against the very overratied Hassim Rachman.

[Derranged]

The only significant wins that Peter has are against an old, fat Toney.
The only significant wins that Maskaev has are against the very overratied Hassim Rachman.

Maskaev did beat Derrick Jefferson, who was considered to be a decent fighter at the time, but yea the Rahman wins were basically it.

[The Critic]

What an asinine thread this is! What ****** logic you have in your 'one track' Sam Peter hating mind...

What if I was to say( before the Klitschko fight), " if Wlad doesn't KO Ibragimov then he's not a worthy hw champion." Would that be fair? No, it wouldn't..

Exactly. If Peter wins a wide decision, he's done well enough

[pesticid]

Well, I'll put it this way, based on their styles, chins and punching power if the fight goes to a decision they are still ****. Well, even if the winner wins by ko he'll still be **** just like the rest of them heavies.

[MELLY-MEL...]

to me peter is not as impressive as many claim! his fights against an old toney were ok, and he looked like **** his last fight. he is far and away from the savior of the division. he should stop mask in 8 or less or win a very wide ud to impress me. to me he is overhyped in a weak division. i think at this point peter has alot to prove.

[pesticid]

Maskaev may be shot, but he's not ****.

Wrong! Maskeav is pretty ****. He's been beaten, actually severely koed by bums and sub-par fighters, and his only two wins that actually mean anything are against a **** fighter.

[Easy-E]

Oleg Maskaev is past his 39th birthday. He's recovering from serious back injuries, and he's been inactive for a year and a half. Maskaev has been stopped five time in his pro career.

Sam Peter is in his prime, 12 years younger. Some say he's the hardest puncher in the heavyweight division...

Is it fair to say, if Peter fails to knock out Maskaev, then he's really not very good?

I think its safe to say that Peter is not a world class heavyweight BEFORE the Maskaev fight.
We all saw what happened when Peter took on a broken down, washed up Jameel McCline.
3 knockdowns and a close decision win.

[Brunswick Assassin]

to me peter is not as impressive as many claim! his fights against an old toney were ok, and he looked like **** his last fight. he is far and away from the savior of the division. he should stop mask in 8 or less or win a very wide ud to impress me. to me he is overhyped in a weak division. i think at this point peter has alot to prove.

Lights Out got ripped off in first fight v Peter. Toney ruined Samuel Peter over 24 rounds as evidenced against Jameel Mc Cline when he dropped Peter 3 times. Peter's face was also f***** in post fight presser. Toney's a former Middleweight and Peter's a full blown heavy and was running from Toney also. What kind of s**** that? Toney gave him the wobbles also.

Maskaev will most likely beat Peter and could do a Rahman on Peter with Peter'shin being suspect! Peter's a 'New School' Heavy. If Greb or Dempsey were fighting Peter today, Peter would get KO'd in 3.

Once Toney beats the crap out of Williams which will serve as a WBC eliminator with the winner facing winner of Peter v Maskaev. Toney will get his revenge on Peter.

[pesticid]

Who is this Williams guy that Toney is fighting?