Is Floyd Waiting For Cotto To Become Great?

[deevel79]

Meanwhle it gives Cotto time to do just what I said in my orignal post. Cotto is supposed to be younger up and coming more active fighter. He now has an extra year to clear out the division of the not-so-great fighters out there like Margarito/Cintron.

Will he do it? That's the question. If he does do it, then there is no question as to who Floyd should and must face after O$car.

But will he?

[Vladimir303]

But will he?

If Cotto does what he is supposed to and becomes great in 08.

Vlad's opinion: Absolutely.

[johnm is...]

But will he?

If Cotto clears out the division, and Floyd doesn't fight him, there's gonna be some crow to be eaten here by several members (myself included).

[2501]

Will he do it? That's the question. If he does do it, then there is no question as to who Floyd should and must face after O$car.

there already IS no question who Floyd should face, it is written in articles and shared as opinion every single day in the boxing community. every article concerning floyd usually has this, "To the dismay of the boxing community and fans a like, Floyd will be bypassing Cotto and giving Oscar De La Hoya a rematch blah blah blah".

[Crazylegs77]

Is Floyd Waiting For Cotto To Become Great?


Nah , I dont think thats true but on the other hand Floyd needs someone other than himself to be a PPV draw. So maybe hes waiting for Cotto to be more well known? Who knows..I just dont think Floyd wants a tough fight with a prime young top conteder.

[Vladimir303]

there already IS no question who Floyd should face, it is written in articles and shared as opinion every single day in the boxing community. every article concerning floyd usually has this, "To the dismay of the boxing community and fans a like, Floyd will be bypassing Cotto and giving Oscar De La Hoya a rematch blah blah blah".

The same was for Margarito. There is a secret meaning by making guys wait and not giving them a shot as soon as they're willing to fight...that fans like you fail to understand.

You need to get out of your simple -minded state and reach new heights in your thought process.

Then we can have a intellectual, more interesting discussion.

[Vladimir303]

Is Floyd Waiting For Cotto To Become Great?


Nah , I dont think thats true but on the other hand Floyd needs someone other than himself to be a PPV draw. So maybe hes waiting for Cotto to be more well known? Who knows..I just dont think Floyd wants a tough fight with a prime young top conteder.

What are you, a bisexual-esque Floyd fan double talking both ways?

[2501]

The same was for Margarito. There is a secret meaning by making guys wait and not giving them a shot as soon as they're willing to fight...that fans like you fail to understand.

You need to get out of your simple -minded state and reach new heights in your thought process.

Then we can have a intellectual, more interesting discussion.

I love how Floyd groupies seem to have this false sense of understanding and praise of PBF that only THEY know and no one else understands.

[Vladimir303]

I love how Floyd groupies seem to have this false sense of understanding and praise of PBF that only THEY know and no one else understands.

You reminded me AGAIN of how bad my disease is. Thank you.

I have been cured of my disease

I know it's long and I don't expect any response but those of you that helped start my "recovery" will appreciate it and those of you remaining nuthuggger's who still think he isn't "ducking" and scared of Cotto will clearly have no choice but to change your opinion.

So for juanroldan and his compadres of latin heritage, and everyone that deserves credit for my overdue admission, here you go:

1-I'm really Floyd's #1 fan. Despite the fact that I have claimed that I'm not part of the Lifestyle flashy/Floydboyz/nuthugger crowd.....I have now come to terms with my problem. After having been told numerous/countless times that I am just a 12 year old floydboy, I have now come to terms that I do have the mentality of a 12 year old. It all makes sense now, with my childlike mentality I couldn't have possibly been right on anything, with my views and positions toward Money May.

2-I have finally realized the truth about Cotto being ducked and felt I should come clean in this way. It was the overwhelming evidence of one argument that brought about my moment of clarity! Here it is with full disclosure:

Miguel Cotto has taken the much tougher fights at WW by far and as a result of his "stunning" ko's and wins, deserves to be considered the "real" WW champion! Mayweather has simply been fighting a parade of blown up fighters.

Just look:

Cotto TKO 5 Quintana:

Look at all those fools who thought this guy was a set-up for his first WW fight so Cotto could grab a quick WW belt! Carlos just beat the most feared of all the true WW's in Williams and reading too much of his own press is no excuse! His amateur background should have prepared him. Look who's laughing now!

Cotto TKO11 Oktay Urkal:

Now this guy had been ripping up the WW division and fiercely! So clearly he wasn't a "blown-up" JWW by the standard mentioned earlier! Just look at his record on boxrec and you can clearly see that he was a True/Real WW his entire career. In the last two fights before Cotto he clearly earned and secured his mandatory shot. He only took 3 rounds to TKO the 1-9 Robert Cristea after pounding out a 77-75 decision against the 2-4-1 Andrei Rimer!

Cotto TKO11 Zab Judah:

This one's a little confusing but if you follow carefully you will realize it makes perfect sense! When Judah fought Cotto (Judah at his best) he wasn't a blown up JWW, he was the former champion. Forget what Tsyzu did at 140, Cotto's was more "stunning". After all, the fact that Judah hadn't really fought in 17 months since losing to Baldomir and Floyd proves that he had grown into the weight better. When he fought Mayweather(clearly not at his best),he was still adjusting to the move from JWW and had just lost to Baldo. Confusing I know but if you look at it from a pro-Cotto position it makes perfect sense!

Cotto UD12 Mosley

Most convincing case of all! Be patient here too. This is by far more impressive than anything PBF has EVER done!

First, you can't compare Mosley at 147 to Oscar at 154. Oscar is a blown up SFW who has been parading as a JMW for 6 years while Shane isn't. Mosley was originally a LW, big difference, and was only JMW for 4yrs.,even bigger diff!

Second, SM's win over Collazo in his first WW fight in four years immediately establishes him as the only legit challenger at 147. After all, it was the same Collazo that fought for the WBA title that Cotto now holds, against Hatton who vacated it!

Third, it doesn't even matter that Mosley's 2 most notable wins are against the very same Oscar in close fights. Cotto beating Shane is just far better and the fact he was JMW 2 less years, proves he was more of a real WW than Oscar.

Finally, Mayweather beats blown up JFW Oscar-bad. Mosley beats 6 div champ version of Oscar-good. That makes Cotto's win more impressive cause Shane beat Oscar while Floyd, a true career WW, was tryin to disguise himself as a SFW,LW,SLW to avoid comp and collect titles, etc.

As for Floyd's resume?

11 years of bein a 5 div, 6 title beeyatch! Just look at the sissies on this list: T.Pep, G.Hernandez, V.Sosa, Manfreddy, Rios, Jukko, Gerena, G.Vargas, J.Chavez, C.Hernandez, Corrales, Castillo, Gatti, Mitchell, Judah (not at his best until he fought Cotto), ODLH,N'dou, Corley, Hatton, Baldo.

Talk about under achievement! Those opponents have a weak ass total of more than 30 major belts between them! He clearly was ducking the best in all div from the start!

And let's not forget about the heroes that saved us from more of Floyd like Tsyzu, Hatton and Cotto himself at 140. Thank God they saw through his pathetic attempts at validation and decided not to take his offers!

After 11+yrs, 6 phony titles in 5 no-talent div and consensus p4p best, now he has the nerve to secure his families future for generations and tell Cotto he has to wait? What a total fraud!

Cotto deserves a break with Gomez! He's earned it! Mayweather on the other hand shouldn't be excused for anything! Where's the nobility in what he does? Who cares if Cotto lists Oscar first on his list of "all the big names"? That is totally different! So what if he told Margarito to get in line after he beat Mosley?

It's all so clear now! Never mind that linear champ nonsense! Thank you guys for helping me see the light and come to terms with my problem! I can now state emphatically that the first and only real, true WW champion since Felix Trinidad is Miguel Angel Cotto!

[2501]

You reminded me AGAIN of how bad my disease is. Thank you.

can you please quote me where I've ever said that Floyd is scared to fight Cotto? Im sure someone as intelligent as you would be able to produce such a quote right Horus?