Seriously...who believes RJJ was ever Heavyweight Champ?

[Mr. Ryan]

He was a "title holder" not the champ.....

This is the correct statement. End of conversation.

How does a guy walk into a title fight in his only heavyweight fight, beat the least regarded titlist, then declare himself the heavyweight champion of the world?

[moofo]

I agreeee 110%

Yet you still carry a lie for a sig?
I thought you had more sense.
Terrible schoolboy error..
Nuthugger material in fact.

[THE REED]

Yet you still carry a lie for a sig?
I thought you had more sense.
Terrible schoolboy error..
Nuthugger material in fact.

Absolutely.. matter fact I keep it in my sig JUST because I find it so funny that people actually think he won a heavyweight championship fight... its unreal.

[moofo]

Absolutely.. matter fact I keep it in my sig JUST because I find it so funny that people actually think he won a heavyweight championship fight... its unreal.

Unreal....and untrue.
So in effect your opinion now carries ZERO WEIGHT.
Well done on "Owning" yourself.

[My Name Is...]

hey every one hates on john ruiz, but he was a decent champ and had a good career he beat.......................

Golota
Rahman
kirk johnson (was a contender at the time)
Holyfield
Oquendo (another contender)

he fighting style ****** ass like Wlad, but he has had a better career than Wlad so far.


also how can RJJ not be a champ. If you hold a belt you are a champ, if you are unified you are THE champ. He wasnt the best, but was far from the worst. So regardless of what you all say "he was a titleholder, not the champ" he was the champ with the WBA. If you a belt you are A CHAMPION, thats why he was called THE "WBA" CHAMPION. You may not like it, but if you go by the rule of the book, he was a champ.

[THE REED]

hey every one hates on john ruiz, but he was a decent champ and had a good career he beat.......................

Golota
Rahman
kirk johnson (was a contender at the time)
Holyfield
Oquendo (another contender)

he fighting style ****** ass like Wlad, but he has had a better career than Wlad so far.

He wasnt the best, but was far from the worst.

John Ruiz was garbage? why would you even spend the time listing out his accomplishments...

[moofo]

Ruiz got spanked by the only tip top guy he fought ...David Tua.

[My Name Is...]

John Ruiz was garbage? why would you even spend the time listing out his accomplishments...

So was he a worse champ than Shannon Briggs, Maskaev, Liakovich. come on dude those were champs that were FAR FAR FAR WORSE than Ruiz. People hate because of the style in which he won.

[My Name Is...]

Ruiz got spanked by the only tip top guy he fought ...David Tua.

and if you look at their careers Ruiz had a better career than Tua. So who cares if he won the battle, Ruiz won the war, which is more money and more titles. Tua had a draw with Rahman, Ruiz beat Rahman. One loss doesnt mean anything. And Tua lost to Chris Byrd and Lennox, I guess Tua ****** too.

[moofo]

So was he a worse champ than Shannon Briggs, Maskaev, Liakovich. come on dude those were champs that were FAR FAR FAR WORSE than Ruiz. People hate because of the style in which he won.

Ruiz was **** and never beat a WORTHY RECOGNISED TIP TOP CHAMP.
If you believe he did you are as ****** as Ree****yaluss thinking RJJ was a real HW champ when Lewis was active..
God I hate ****** ****ers.
And there are plenty on this forum....