Biggest Waste of Talent ,Fighters who never fullfilled there true potential

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  • deevel79
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    #21
    Zab Judah, Camacho Jr.

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    • Thread Stealer
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      #22
      Originally posted by RageX
      Norris was a very good fighter but his chin let him down. I think if he had a good chin he could have beaten Julio Cesar Chavez and some others during his time.
      Chavez was too small.

      If that fight had materialized when it was talked about, Norris would have been the first fighter to hang an L on the loss column of Chavez, not Randall (Barring that early DQ that was apparently reversed).

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      • guzi815
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        #23
        Oba Carr (Motor City)
        Meldrick Taylor (The Kid)
        Hector Camacho (Junior!)
        Terry Norris (Terrible)

        just simply loved watching these dudes at the beginning of thier careers....then, I dunno, something happened. I was gonna say Tommy Morrison (The Duke), but they thought he had HIV, so he don't make this list cause he only lost 3 times in 48 fights!
        Last edited by guzi815; 02-29-2008, 07:13 PM.

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        • Dynamite Kid
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          #24
          Originally posted by Thread Stealer
          Chavez was too small.

          If that fight had materialized when it was talked about, Norris would have been the first fighter to hang an L on the loss column of Chavez, not Randall (Barring that early DQ that was apparently reversed).
          Thread stealer your obviously older than me

          why did'nt the fight materalise everytime i saw an interview with Norris he was either calling out Chavez or Whitaker

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          • RageX
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            #25
            Originally posted by Thread Stealer
            Chavez was too small.

            If that fight had materialized when it was talked about, Norris would have been the first fighter to hang an L on the loss column of Chavez, not Randall (Barring that early DQ that was apparently reversed).
            Its only a 50/50 fight for me because Chavez had a good chin in his prime but Norris didn't, if Norris had a good chin this fight would have been 90/10 in favour of Norris, he had the skills to beat Chavez but not the chin.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Terrible...
              Thread stealer your obviously older than me

              why did'nt the fight materalise everytime i saw an interview with Norris he was either calling out Chavez or Whitaker
              Around the time when the fight was being talked about, Chavez was a champ @ 140 and Norris @ 154. There was talk about a catchweight between the 2, as Norris was a rather small jr. middle, but Chavez fought WW champ Whitaker in September 1993 (with Norris destroying Joe Gatti on the undercard) at a catchweight 145 lbs.

              Chavez in the eyes of nearly everyone, lost to Whitaker, then lost to Randall 4 months later.

              I'm not too sure why Norris and Whitaker never fought. Maybe Duva and Whitaker didn't want to deal with Don King again (although they did fight Tito a few years later). I do know that when Whitaker made his move to 154 to fight Vasquez, Norris was without a belt, as he'd been DQ'd the first of 2 times against Santana.

              As it is, it was a good move IMO for Whitaker to not fight Norris.

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                #27
                Originally posted by RageX
                Its only a 50/50 fight for me because Chavez had a good chin in his prime but Norris didn't, if Norris had a good chin this fight would have been 90/10 in favour of Norris, he had the skills to beat Chavez but not the chin.
                But how much power do you think Chavez would carry up in weight, against a much bigger opponent.

                Chavez generally wore guys down with a consistent attack downstairs and upstairs, against guys from 130-140. Norris was a 154 lb fighter. The guys who took him out or badly hurt him were:

                Julian Jackson: one of the hardest hitters ever at 154 (and 160).
                Simon Brown: a big puncher at 147 and whom could punch at 154 also
                Troy Waters: a career-long junior middle whose KO percentage wasn't too shabby.
                Luis Santana: a guy who spent basically his whole career at either 147 or 154.
                Keith Mullings: another career-long 154 lb fighter.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Thread Stealer
                  Around the time when the fight was being talked about, Chavez was a champ @ 140 and Norris @ 154. There was talk about a catchweight between the 2, as Norris was a rather small jr. middle, but Chavez fought WW champ Whitaker in September 1993 (with Norris destroying Joe Gatti on the undercard) at a catchweight 145 lbs.

                  Chavez in the eyes of nearly everyone, lost to Whitaker, then lost to Randall 4 months later.

                  I'm not too sure why Norris and Whitaker never fought. Maybe Duva and Whitaker didn't want to deal with Don King again (although they did fight Tito a few years later). I do know that when Whitaker made his move to 154 to fight Vasquez, Norris was without a belt, as he'd been DQ'd the first of 2 times against Santana.

                  As it is, it was a good move IMO for Whitaker to not fight Norris.
                  i have the Gatti fight i did'nt realise it was on the undercard to Whitaker v Chavez

                  was Norris an avoided fighter in your opinion Thread Stealer

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Terrible...
                    i have the Gatti fight i did'nt realise it was on the undercard to Whitaker v Chavez

                    was Norris an avoided fighter in your opinion Thread Stealer
                    Norris an avoided fighter?

                    I wouldn't say so.

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                      Definitely, Roy Jones Jr.. .I think anyone will agree with me, complete WASTE...

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