Pacquiao-Larios in November

[lapulapu]

all is uncertain on who is pacman fighting next, but st. clair i think won't do any good for pacquiao except (just) to avoid getting rusty, that's just it! this unknown boxer is not of pacquiao's caliber. considering the status that pacquiao is now enjoying, this is not a good fight for him! larios is much a better fight! if pacquiao is fighting st. clair, arum and the rest who belittles pacquiao will have the last laugh because they have succeeded in dumping pacquiao!

there should be another way to avoid ring rust. however, if this fight with st. clair will push through, i hope pacman is getting the right pay. the fight will be made in the philippines, it doesn't sound pacquiao will get a good deal. has anybody heard the case of luisito espinosa?

[JaNnO]

its seems that getting st. clair to fight pacman this year was the best thing that murad can come up with. harrison didn't work out and so did larios. chi was a no brainer since the guy was asking for the moon and as we all know jmm, mab and morales chose the best options for them, that is -- no pacman, at least this year.

i think murad has to go. manny has outgrown him and what his outfit can offer. what manny needs is not a miracle worker but one that works hard and shows results. murad is all about talking and all bull****s. he doesn't even want to shell out any money out of his own pocket to do his job.

i hope manny doesn't make another mistake by re-signing murad again whose contract is up to expire nex year. i wouldn't mind if golden boy ot top rank gets his contract as long as they can get manny the best deals out there.

now, manny's fighting in the philippines against the ausie is not bad at all if you think about it. the guy is a wbo intercontinental champion with a respectable ring record. i read from other posts that he hasn't been knocked out and has fought boxers in higher divisions. if he is for real (a tough fighter that is), then he is not some patsy that murad just happened to pick up from the streets.

do you guys know what weight this guy and manny are fighting at? i don't think manny should fight beyond 126 for now. One hundred thirty sounds reasonable but beyond that is pushing him to the limit, even to say that this fight is a tune-up for erik morales. i think it's a risky proposition. i don't want manny to derail his ascent to being an hbo-ppv marquee fighter because of a lousy loss to a virtually unknown fighter at the wrong weight division. this is the last thing that manny needs at this point in his career.

regarding the espinosa case, i don't think it's going to happen to manny because he has a good backing of high profile individuals in the philippines including president arroyo. i don't think there is a small-time promoter that would dare to mess with the present darling of the philippine sports, or else he'll go straight to calaboose.

[psychopath]

its seems that getting st. clair to fight pacman this year was the best thing that murad can come up with. harrison didn't work out and so was larios. chi was a no brainer since the guy was asking for the moon and as we all know jmm, mab and morales chose the best options for them, that is -- no pacman, at least this year.

i think murad has to go. manny has outgrown him and what his outfit can offer. what manny needs is not a miracle worker but one that works hard and shows results. murad is all about talking and all bull****s. he doesn't even want to shell out any money out of his own pocket to do his job.

i hope manny doesn't make another mistake by re-signing murad again whose contract is up to expire nex year. i wouldn't mind if golden boy ot top rank gets his contract as long as they can get manny the best deals out there.

now, manny's fighting in the philippines against the ausie is not bad at all if you think about it. the guy is a wbo intercontinental champion with a respectable ring record. i read from other posts that he hasn't been knocked out and has fought boxers in higher divisions. if he is for real (a tough fighter that is), then he is not some patsy that murad just happened to pick up from the streets.

do you guys know what weight this guy and manny are fighting at? i don't think manny should fight beyond 126 for now. One hundred thirty sounds reasonable but beyond that is pushing him to the limit, even to say that this fight is a tune-up for erik morales. i think it's a risky proposition. i don't want manny to derail his ascent to being an hbo-ppv marquee fighter because of a lousy loss to a virtually unknown fighter at the wrong weight division. this is the last thing that manny needs at this point in his career.

regarding the espinosa case, i don't think it's going to happen to manny because he has a good backing of high profile individuals in the philippines including president arroyo. i don't think there is a small-time promoter that would dare to mess with the present darling of the philippine sports, or else he'll go straight to calaboose.

St claire is currently holding a WBO INTERIM Title at 126 so it's most likely that the fight will be at that weight.

[JaNnO]

Bro that fight most likely won't happen soon . . . it has been confirmed that Manny will fighting in MANILA with St Claire as his opponent . . . JMM and Morales have openly expressed their intentions to mixed it up with Manny next year so Larrios moves out of the picture temporarily.

And If that fight should happen it's going to be at 126 believe me. Pacquiao doesn't have anything to gain in punishing his body trying to make the 122 weight limit. There's just not enough motivation,incentive or reason for him to do that, remember that he is the No 1 featherweight in the p4p list.

i wonder why murad didn't even get the st. clair camp to agree to stake their ward's championship belt. by fighting manny alone, one of the hottest fighters in the planet today is enough to bring this ausie under the limelight. in fact manny had a lot to put on the table and murad didn't even get something back for manny other than the match itself.

[HomicideHank]

Well, whatever happened to the title of this thread coz Murad has just lined up a Gary St. Clair for the PacMan. This virtually unknown fighter has been campaigning at Lightweight and jr. Welterweight classes, having been into the ring with Corrales, Vivian Harris and Leonard Dorrin. He's never been KO'd, even Chicco's power wasn't enough to stop him. Is this all the "miracle" that Murad can come up with?

Pac should get Arum next year, he's a crook maybe...but a wily crook with good connections that makes Murad look like an amateur!

Murad Muhammad always reminded me of the sleazoid you see at the back of a pool hall using a handkerchief to mop the sweat oozing from his big fat head.

I think his wife still works as a high-ranking official for the IBF. A bit of 'conflict of interest' there?? Nah.....

[Tha Greatest]

ya

Willie jorrin will destroy larios, pacman, barrera and morales!!~

[LuKahnLi]

Greatest.....

Um, whatever plane of existance you live on must not be up to date on current events......

Larios almost decapitated Willie Jorrin when he KO'd him with a single right uppercut in round 1 of their rematch.

[Tha Greatest]

w.e

Greatest.....

Um, whatever plane of existance you live on must not be up to date on current events......

Larios almost decapitated Willie Jorrin when he KO'd him with a single right uppercut in round 1 of their rematch.

w/e man we'll see
i know him and he's trainin hard

[grayfist]

w/e man we'll see
i know him and he's trainin hard

Destroy is a much too strong word to use in describing what Jorin can do to the likes of Pacman, Morales and Larios.

Immediately prior to taking on MBrodie for the empty WBC SuperBantam throne, Jorrin fought the winless Juan Luis Torres (0-11-0!) at the Cache Creek Casino in Brook, CA, then went up against Marcos Badillo, who had more losses than wins (13-14-0) at Feather Falls Casino, Oroville, CA.

In the Brodie (then, 29-0) meeting in Manchester, Jorin put Brodie down in the 10th then eked out a Majority Decision win.

His first defense, which was in Tokyo agaist Osamu (NOT Ossama, as in THAT Ossama) Sato, was a Majority Draw, although Sato went down twice in the 3rd.

He lost the crown on his second defense on Nov. 1,2002, when Larios, whom he had earlier defeated, spooked him, it being Haloween season. He went down in the first canto. The fight lasted all of 1 minute and 28 seconds. The second anniversary of that defeat is just around the corner.

In his first fight after the Larios debacle, he won by a resounding TKO2 in April 2003 at Rosemont, IL. But it was against a John Hoffman who was 10-8 and had lost 3 of his last 6 fights. The meeting was at Lightweight. Jorin was registered as officially weighing 134 lbs and change.

In his last fight, Jorin lost-- the second of only 2 losses in his record. It was at the Celebrity Theatre in Phoenix on Nov. 6, last year. Jorin and his opponent officially tipped the scale at 129 lbs. The decision was Majority Draw. His opponent? a certain Christian Fabella who was 8-4-3 and was in no mood to show Christian charity that night.

Jorin is digits over 5'5, 34 years old, fights off an orthodox stance and is ranked 144 among the world's lightweights. His record of 13 KO's out of 29 wins is not exactly something that could make a Pcquiao or a Morales tremble. Instead, Jorin's style, can make Morales' and Pacquiao's mouth water in eager anticipation.

I'm not saying that Jorin has no place in boxing. All I'm saying is that he does not belong in the same sentence as Pacman and Morales. Larios, yes. They have met twice.

[psychopath]

i wonder why murad didn't even get the st. clair camp to agree to stake their ward's championship belt. by fighting manny alone, one of the hottest fighters in the planet today is enough to bring this ausie under the limelight. in fact manny had a lot to put on the table and murad didn't even get something back for manny other than the match itself.

That only shows MURADs incompetence. Since there will be no belt involved in that fight why then did he not settle for a PAC/JUAREZ fight instead. All Manny needs is a decent fight while waiting for his anticipated bout with MOrales, MAB and JMM.
Have you seen the latest? ****** MUrad was targeting CASAMAYOR, LUIS CASTILLO or Chico Coralles as Manny's supposed to be next opponent after that MAB and Moralles negotiations bog down.

That's just an OUTRAGEOUS ******ITY . . . is he trying to feed Pacquiao to the lions? I mean for what? Those fighters are campaigning two division above Manny . . . so what's in it?

Murad's contract is expiring this December and believe me it's most likely that he is going to loose his job.