If Wladimir was American and black, would he be more accepted as a top heavyweight?

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  • FloydFanatic
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    #31
    callin me a joke is bull$$$$ son. that dude b4 said bhop cant sell out a row of seats in his hometown. thats a lie and hate. he should go back and watch his celine dion instead of spreading lies bout the legend.
    and i said hed be less accepted if he was american black because im gettin mad hate and bein called racist names like crazy. some of the the brits and russians be hatin on us for no reason and outnumber us and they hate more than any1 so klit would get more hate if he was american and black.
    call it a joke all u want but its true and yall c that now.

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    • ИATAS
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      #32
      Saying B-hop cant sell is silly, his PPV's always sell in the hundreds of thousands and he is half the product.

      But I do agree with the original point, which is that KO artists and flashy personalities are what sell the most, compared to technical fighters, and/or mellow personalities.

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      • The Hammer
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        #33
        Interesting results in this poll!

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        • Derranged
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          #34
          Originally posted by Tunney
          Interesting results in this poll!
          You shoulda added not sure....

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          • SkillspayBills
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            #35
            Originally posted by natas206
            he has been criticized for getting KO'd and, recently, because of the boring fight on Saturday.

            If he continues to fight like that, and if he were black, he'd be about as famous as Chris Byrd.
            Pretty much. Only an ******* like Tunney would bring race and nationality into the equation.

            Oh wait I take that second one back if he was American he probably wouldn't be. However the race thing, idiocy at it's best.

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            • Derranged
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              #36
              The problem with Tunneys point about race is that, how do you account for the WHITE people who criticize Wladimir? And just because a black person dislikes/criticizes a white fighter, and vice versa, does that automatically means theres a racial element behind it? Like I said, its really hard to tell.

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              • GunStar
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                #37
                Money Mayweather was killed for his fight with Baldy and that fight was 10 times better then Wlad/Sultan.

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                • The Hammer
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Derranged
                  The problem with Tunneys point about race is that, how do you account for the WHITE people who criticize Wladimir? And just because a black person dislikes/criticizes a white fighter, and vice versa, does that automatically means theres a racial element behind it? Like I said, its really hard to tell.
                  All the really good heavyweights of the 70s, 80s, and 90s were black men, so even the white boxing fans are used to the best boxers being black! Sometimes as well, women and gay white men who are boxing fans have a strong attraction to black boxers.

                  It will take boxing fans awhile to get used to successful white fighters like Wlad, just like it took some people awile to get used to Joe Louis being champion all those years ago. Remember, Jack Johnson was critisised a hundred years ago just as much as Wlad is today.
                  Last edited by The Hammer; 02-27-2008, 10:44 PM.

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                  • TheGreatA
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                    #39
                    All of those black, American boxers were criticized like Wladimir is today. This was already proven earlier in this thread.


                    The problem for Wladimir is, this fight was supposed to impress the American fans but it ended up being a bore.

                    He is being criticized a lot because the fight with Ibragimov was the first impression of Wladimir for many American fans.
                    Now he needs to take care of that and impress in his next fights. That's all.
                    Last edited by TheGreatA; 02-27-2008, 10:52 PM.

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                    • robjr
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                      #40
                      no. same critisizm.. he is the best... which shows how sad the heavy division is..

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