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  • Living Legend
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    #51
    I believe the fight should have been a majority draw for Pavlik... Pavlik looked like ****, but Taylor didn't do enough to win...He may have did enough to Draw Pavlik, but no where near enough to have actually pulled out a win...

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    • TheGreatA
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      #52
      Originally posted by -Hyperion-
      pavlik admited he lost rounds 2,3,4,5,6. and he CLEARLY as all **** lost the 10th so the worst it could be for JT was a draw if you gave EVERY single close round to Pavlik....end...
      Taylor thought he was losing the first fight on points even though most had the fight for Taylor until the stoppage.

      We can't trust the fighters words on who is winning the fight, lots of those rounds were close and Pavlik like most fighters didn't think he was winning them because they were close.

      Then there are boxers like Winky Wright who think they won every close round and end up dropping close decisions for it.

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      • warp1432
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        #53
        Don't mention to him about Winky Wright, he doesn't think he's ever lost a fight.

        I had this current fight 116-112 for Pavlik. I had it the exact same way Harold ledderman (suprisingly) had it except which round 4 I had for Kelly. I could see Jermain winning round 4 though too.

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        • -Hyperion-
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          #54
          Originally posted by TheManchine
          Taylor thought he was losing the first fight on points even though most had the fight for Taylor until the stoppage.

          We can't trust the fighters words on who is winning the fight, lots of those rounds were close and Pavlik like most fighters didn't think he was winning them because they were close.

          Then there are boxers like Winky Wright who think they won every close round and end up dropping close decisions for it.
          his corner also thought so...his corner told him he needed a kd in the 12...im giving facts...not assumptions...

          i dont really care though, im happy jt's career didnt take a major blow and im happy with that...

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          • -Hyperion-
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            #55
            Originally posted by warp1432
            Don't mention to him about Winky Wright, he doesn't think he's ever lost a fight.

            I had this current fight 116-112 for Pavlik. I had it the exact same way Harold ledderman (suprisingly) had it except which round 4 I had for Kelly. I could see Jermain winning round 4 though too.
            wow i have my own stalker...

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            • warp1432
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              #56
              Maybe border patrol, but not me.

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              • Easy-E
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                #57
                Originally posted by MikeBrew328
                I'm sorry, but I still don't see what everybody else seems to be seeing. I rewatchd Taylor-Pavlik 2 (after watching in Chinese) and I just don't see how Taylor lost. Using clean effective punching, Taylor dominated. THe judges didn't even know what type of fight they liked, HBO showed the scores were incredibly inconsistent.

                Round 1: Kelly Pavlik definitely won
                Rounds 2-8: Jermain won 5 out of these 6 rounds
                Round 9: Kelly edged this round out
                Round 10: Jermain Taylor wins BIG. Judges Moretti and Trowbridge BOTH give this round to Pavlik
                Round 11: Kelly Pavlik by a wide margin
                Round 12: This round I could see going even or in Jermain Taylor's way

                My score: 115-114, Jermain Taylor.

                I don't know how Dave Moretti scored it 117-111, I think he should retire.

                End rant
                Yeah the scoring was atrocious.
                ****ing annoying.

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                • OmnipotentFloyd
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by MikeBrew328
                  I'm sorry, but I still don't see what everybody else seems to be seeing. I rewatchd Taylor-Pavlik 2 (after watching in Chinese) and I just don't see how Taylor lost. Using clean effective punching, Taylor dominated. THe judges didn't even know what type of fight they liked, HBO showed the scores were incredibly inconsistent.

                  Round 1: Kelly Pavlik definitely won
                  Rounds 2-8: Jermain won 5 out of these 6 rounds
                  Round 9: Kelly edged this round out
                  Round 10: Jermain Taylor wins BIG. Judges Moretti and Trowbridge BOTH give this round to Pavlik
                  Round 11: Kelly Pavlik by a wide margin
                  Round 12: This round I could see going even or in Jermain Taylor's way

                  My score: 115-114, Jermain Taylor.

                  I don't know how Dave Moretti scored it 117-111, I think he should retire.

                  End rant

                  Its ok man. You see what you want to see I suppose sometimes. Reality is Taylor didnt do what he needed to do, he almost got KTFO in round 1 and 11.

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                  • -Hyperion-
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by warp1432
                    Maybe border patrol, but not me.
                    you had round 12 wright-taylor for taylor....that just about tells me what you know about boxing...and a hopkins fan....now on ignore...

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                    • GooGoo
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by OmnipotentFloyd
                      Its ok man. You see what you want to see I suppose sometimes. Reality is Taylor didnt do what he needed to do, he almost got KTFO in round 1 and 11.

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