James Toney To Face Danny Williams?

The worst robberies have been in the US: Sturm/DLH, Lewis/Holyfield I, Meehan/Brewster, Morales/Diaz, Byrd/Golota, etc.

Never saw Meehan-Brewie or Byrd-Golota.

I wouldn't call Morales/Diaz a "robbery", even though I had Morales giving the chubber a boxing lesson. ISTR I had it 115-113 Morales.... no, probably wider with the KD. But it was close enough IMO to qualify as "****ty decision" rather than all out rob.

I watched the first seven rounds again of DLH-Sturm and had to switch off as I was falling into a coma. DLH's pitter pat at middle wasn't landing, but he was working constantly with ****e. Sturm was landing accurate jabs... but about two a round. I was having to give DLH rounds just because Sturm wasn't working.

[Crazylegs77]

If Toney had power I could see him continuing @ HW.

Hes a great boxer & slick but hes getting slower as he gets older.
I can possibly see him beating a HW Like Eddie Chambers, Povetkin or Holyfield though.

[The Hammer]

Toney should just shut up and retire.

[GunStar]

Go on, name me three, cos I've never seen it. I think a lot of this "there's always robberies in Europe" is a myth perpetuated by The Ring. Obviously it happens in SOME European countries (Schnell!) but not all.

Here is the link.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...alzaghe+robbed

Here is the link.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...alzaghe+robbed

Cheers brother, I missed this one at the time, let's have a look:

I will name you some but lest not forget how horrible the refereeing is in UK compare to US.

It is, man. Over in the UK they let you get away with headbutting your opponent in the face, and if you bite off a section of your opponent's ear they only say "I'll take two points and let it go on" - it's a ****ing disgrace.

I'm glad that a lot of UK heavies ply their trade over in the States so they can get a fair deal from unbiased refs, like Lennox did when he fought Tyson, and Danny Williams did when he fought Tyson.

Here are some fights that were judged incorrectly.


Laguana VS. Buchanan
Close VS. Eubank
Narvaez Vs. Buchanan
Robinson VS. Turpin
Bueono Vs. McCullough
Johnson VS. woods
Maliniga VS. Eubank
Polo VS. Harrison
Reid VS. Calzaghe
Watson VS. Eubank

I can name more but since you ask for only 3, I added a few more.

Lets not turn this into another nationality thread but considering how many fights are in UK, they are right up there with Germany.

For any British person to say that UK are better at judging, then they are clearly being biased.

Look boxing can be a dirty sport and we have many robberies all over the world but considering the amount of fights that are in USA, it's not even close to UK.

I'm not saying that the UK are "better" at judging than the US - better than Germany, certainly - but I don't see widespread robberies.

I must say, I'm impressed by your wide boxing knowledge there, and have to confess that I haven't seen a lot of those fights.

Can you confirm which Woods-Johnson fight you're referring to? Even though I had Johnson winning the third 115-113, I can give you three solid reasons why that wasn't a preordained robbery. The first one - which I've only seen once on transmission - I had a genuine draw. I swear to God.

Out of the others I've seen (an embarrassingly small amount of the ones listed, I have to confess) then I did really have The Blow outpointing Reid and I was pissed off that Polo didn't get the W as I had money on him. I wasn't scoring the fight properly, but I was under the impression that he won, yes. Though I guess a lot of it was a close fight, rather than a Forbes-D-Hop situation.

The fact that you've gone the span of history does say a fair bit though... you're looking at four decades of boxing there. I mean, ****ty decisions happen all the time, it's part of the business, right? I don't like it or justify it, it's just the way it is.

Okay, let's do Woods-Monson III anyway, I'll give you three solid reasons why that may have been a ****ty decision (like I say, I had Monson winning) but why it WASN'T a case of "the US fighter gets brought over to be robbed".


1. Monson was brought over as a showcase for a future Blow fight by The Blow's manager, Frank Warren. He didn't want Woods to win as HBO wouldn't give a good **** about Woods, and....


2. ... he hates Woods because of his manager. Woods's manager is the guy who The Paler (Hatton) went to after they parted. Frank Warren bought out the rights to promote the fight to piss off Woods's manager (even calling it "For A Few Dollars More" as the slimy **** had outbid him) and gave Woods a converted toilet to get changed in. To add insult to injury The Paler worked Woods's corner that night and was instrumental in spurring him on for the later rounds. (To be fair, The Jamoc gassed and was hanging on for the last two rounds)

3. This is perhaps the most notable for ya - the one judge who had Monson winning (it was an SD) was the green teef.... the two judges who gave it to Woods were burger-eating Fat Yanks.



That's if you're talking about the third, obviously.

[Tuggers1986]

I'll be interested to see which one is the heaviest.

I'd put Toney the favourite, but if he can be outboxed by Sam Peter at this age then it's not beyond Danny to win it.

Let's face it, Danny's earned his shot at the WBC title. After getting UD'd by a master boxer in Matt Skelton, TKO'd in three by Audley Harrison and getting a NC with Oleg Platov, they should have just handed him the title straight.


It'd be a pisser if he manged to win the WBC then Vitali came back.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA

[GunStar]

Cheers brother, I missed this one at the time, let's have a look:




It is, man. Over in the UK they let you get away with headbutting your opponent in the face, and if you bite off a section of your opponent's ear they only say "I'll take two points and let it go on" - it's a ****ing disgrace.

I'm glad that a lot of UK heavies ply their trade over in the States so they can get a fair deal from unbiased refs, like Lennox did when he fought Tyson, and Danny Williams did when he fought Tyson.

hahaha...Tyson was disqualified.

I'm not saying that the UK are "better" at judging than the US - better than Germany, certainly - but I don't see widespread robberies.

I must say, I'm impressed by your wide boxing knowledge there, and have to confess that I haven't seen a lot of those fights.

Can you confirm which Woods-Johnson fight you're referring to? Even though I had Johnson winning the third 115-113, I can give you three solid reasons why that wasn't a preordained robbery. The first one - which I've only seen once on transmission - I had a genuine draw. I swear to God.

Out of the others I've seen (an embarrassingly small amount of the ones listed, I have to confess) then I did really have The Blow outpointing Reid and I was pissed off that Polo didn't get the W as I had money on him. I wasn't scoring the fight properly, but I was under the impression that he won, yes. Though I guess a lot of it was a close fight, rather than a Forbes-D-Hop situation.

The fact that you've gone the span of history does say a fair bit though... you're looking at four decades of boxing there. I mean, ****ty decisions happen all the time, it's part of the business, right? I don't like it or justify it, it's just the way it is.

I had Johnson wining the first fight, too. Anyway, I was referring to the last fight, which is the third fight.

I didn't really span the history, I just named 10 fights, if you want me to span the British history, then it will take some time but I'm pretty sure I can name many more fights.

[Jim Jeffries]

hahaha...Tyson was disqualified.

Not after the first bite, genius.

[GunStar]

Not after the first bite, genius.

Yes I know, ******!