How can you not like SMW?

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Even without Pavlik and Taylor. Calzaghe, Kessler, Mundine, Bute are a lot better than the top 4 at MW.

Also bring in up and coming talent. I say its the best division, rivalling welters.

The Welterweight division is Ten Times deeper than the Super Middleweight division. It's loaded with star caliber fighters.



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The Welterweight division is Ten Times deeper than the Super Middleweight division. It's loaded with star caliber fighters.

Please give me the list.

Then we can compare.

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Please give me the list.

Then we can compare.

Mayweather
Cotto
Mosely
Williams
Hatton
De La Hoya
Margarito
Cintron
Quintana
Clottey
Judah
Baldomir
Collazo
Berto


It sucks that the fights aren't being made in the WW division, but it is still undoubtedly deeper than any other division in boxing, including SMW.

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Lol at Collazo, Baldomir (whose fighting at 154 now BTW,) DLH (still doubtful he can make WW), and Hatton (I seriously doubt he comes back to WW,) and Judah (3 losses in a row at WW.)

I support this statement.

Give me a couple of minutes to come up with a list of SMWS.

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Calzaghe
Kessler
Mundine
Bute
Inkin
Froch
Andrade
Jurgen Brahmer
Edison Miranda
Sakio Bika
Jeff Lacy
Jean Pascal
Allan Green

Key thing about my list, compared to yours: These guys will be fighting at this weight consistently from now on. There are many threats to Calzaghe and Kessler. More so than there is to Mayweather and Cotto in the welterweight division.

SMW has greater depth.

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Calzaghe
Kessler
Mundine
Bute
Inkin
Froch
Andrade
Jurgen Brahmer
Edison Miranda
Sakio Bika
Jeff Lacy
Jean Pascal
Allan Green

Key thing about my list, compared to yours: These guys will be fighting at this weight consistently from now on. There are many threats to Calzaghe and Kessler. More so than there is to Mayweather and Cotto in the welterweight division.

SMW has greater depth.

ok there isn't a single threat to Calzaghe on that list, lol.



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ok there isn't a single threat to Calzaghe on that list, lol.

Yep. Bute and Mundine. Bute is very strong and continues to develop. Mundine is technically the best out of them all, and to me would give Calzaghe a very tough run. Styles make fights.

Also Kessler could take down an ageing Calzaghe maybe in a couple of years.

These guys pose more of a threat to Joe. Than Cotto, Margarito etc etc do to Mayweather.

SMW = Best division.

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Calzaghe isn't a SMW fighter anymore. He is done with that division. His fight with Hopkins is his second last one at LHW. He will only fight one more huge name and be done with it .. if even one more. That fight will be at LHW as well if he is good against Hopkins. He will probably go against Jones Jr or something. No point counting Calzaghe anymore at that weight...at any rate he will not fight any of those guys. None are big enough names for him if he wins against Hopkins.

As always seems to be the case people stop counting divisions talent base when they get to WW. Maybe you guys should have a look below WW to find easily some of the most talented divisions in boxing today, as good as WW and SMW.

Lightweight and surrounding divisions always have an absurdly deep pool of talent. Today is no exception and it even now boasts some of boxings brightest future stars like the Gattiesque Katsidis or Juan Diaz and the other Diaz'. Or Jr lightweight: Pacquiao, Marquez, Guzman, Valero, Soto, Barrios, Arthur etc.

Also, I think the next biggest division for talent is the Jr Bantam. Such stars and future match-ups between fighters like Montiel, Mijares, Donaire, Munoz, Kirilov, Navarro, Gorrez, Arce and guys like Sakata, Naito possibly moving up it would be an absolutely huge talent packed division!!!

The lower weights are consistently more packed full of talent than any other weight but are also consistently overlooked. The more people keep overlooking them the less they will ever actually get any proper consideration for the talented divisions they are.

Lightweight rulezzz'

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Mayweather
Cotto
Mosely
Williams
Hatton
De La Hoya
Margarito
Cintron
Quintana
Clottey
Judah
Baldomir
Collazo
Berto

There are some serious problems with this list. As always seems to happen when people are talking up the WW divisions as the best these days. Guys like Baldomir and De La Hoya can be scrapped completely. They will not be fighting at WW anymore. Mosely will be finished very soon. Maybe one or two max fights left. Judah is not really a top contender anymore. He is like the gatekeeper of the division. Hatton will not fight at WW again either I'm quite sure. He will have enough to keep him busy in JWW for the rest of his career.

So really, the list is more like this in reality: Mayweather, Cotto, Williams (who will be moving up to 154 soon as well I think) Margarito, Cintron then the fringe contenders Clottey, Collazo, Quintana, Berto, Judah.

It's a good list of fighters but I still think there are divisions easily as good and full of new talent. Cotto may be the only real new star in that division apart from a good prospect like Berto.

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Calzaghe isn't a SMW fighter anymore. He is done with that division. His fight with Hopkins is his second last one at LHW. He will only fight one more huge name and be done with it .. if even one more. That fight will be at LHW as well if he is good against Hopkins. He will probably go against Jones Jr or something. No point counting Calzaghe anymore at that weight...at any rate he will not fight any of those guys. None are big enough names for him if he wins against Hopkins.

As always seems to be the case people stop counting divisions talent base when they get to WW. Maybe you guys should have a look below WW to find easily some of the most talented divisions in boxing today, as good as WW and SMW.

Lightweight and surrounding divisions always have an absurdly deep pool of talent. Today is no exception and it even now boasts some of boxings brightest future stars like the Gattiesque Katsidis or Juan Diaz and the other Diaz'. Or Jr lightweight: Pacquiao, Marquez, Guzman, Valero, Soto, Barrios, Arthur etc.

Also, I think the next biggest division for talent is the Jr Bantam. Such stars and future match-ups between fighters like Montiel, Mijares, Donaire, Munoz, Kirilov, Navarro, Gorrez, Arce and guys like Sakata, Naito possibly moving up it would be an absolutely huge talent packed division!!!

The lower weights are consistently more packed full of talent than any other weight but are also consistently overlooked. The more people keep overlooking them the less they will ever actually get any proper consideration for the talented divisions they are.

Lightweight rulezzz'

Lower weights? No way. Not like WW or SMW.

Anyway, if Calzaghe is to fight RJJ it will be at SMW. That has been said numerous times..