Tell me why Steward is so regarded as a trainer?

**BrooklynBomber** · 02-17-2008, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by !! Anorak

I don't get it. Obviously he ****ed up with Sad Intentions, but he still gets credit for other achievements. Here's some of his recent successes:

Emmanuel: "Lennox, use your jab the way you did before I ever even trained you. Oh, except don't get caught with an overhand right."

Lennox: "Uhmmmmmmmmm... definitely."

Emmanuel: "Wladimir, you see the way Chris Byrd is about three foot smaller than you, is completely shot to ****, and coming towards you without using his trademark defence? Well knock the **** out of him, okay?"

Wlad: "Yes, I see this. We use stratigi that we worked on, no? Manny, shall I give you my special kiss now?"

Emmanuel: "No, wait till we're back in the dressing room."

The point? If you've got two heavies that are about two feet taller than everyone else and fifty pounds heavier (no exaggeration) then what do you really have to do? It's like Angelo Dundee getting all the credit he does. I mean, if you were the trainer of Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson you'd have to be a right thick **** to get it wrong, wouldn't you?

Was not Dundee Leonard's(not Robinson's) trainer?

As to your main question, well, the main job of the trainer when he works with guys like Wlad or Lennox is to get them into the right frame of mind. Frankly speaking any great fighter usually know what to do on his own, but getting that psychological background is a much tougher business, and Manny usually does it really well.

**TheGreatA** · 02-17-2008, 03:33 PM

Fighters Manny Steward has trained at some point of their careers.

Hilmer Kenty
Thomas Hearns
Milton McCrory
Mike McCallum
Dennis Andries
Jimmy Paul
Duane Thomas
John David Jackson
Michael Moorer
Steve McCrory
Gerald McClellan
Wilfredo Benitez
Evander Holyfield
Julio C�sar Ch�vez
Lennox Lewis
James Toney
Oscar de la Hoya
Wladimir Klitschko
Jermain Taylor
Kermit Cintron
Naseem Hamed
Andy Lee

His best work was done with Hearns, McClellan, Lewis and Klitschko.

One funny thing you might notice is that Steward worked McCall's corner during the first Lewis vs McCall fight and then worked as Lewis' trainer in the rematch.

**Guest** · 02-17-2008, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by BrooklynBomber

Was not Dundee Leonard's(not Robinson's) trainer?

FFS, I meant Leonard.

Brian: "Do you listen to yourself when you talk, Peter?"

Peter Griffin: "I drift in and out."

As for Manny being Hamed's trainer... that partnership worked well, didn't it?

**Brockton Lip** · 02-17-2008, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by !! Anorak

I don't get it. Obviously he ****ed up with Sad Intentions, but he still gets credit for other achievements. Here's some of his recent successes:

Emmanuel: "Lennox, use your jab the way you did before I ever even trained you. Oh, except don't get caught with an overhand right."

Lennox: "Uhmmmmmmmmm... definitely."

Emmanuel: "Wladimir, you see the way Chris Byrd is about three foot smaller than you, is completely shot to ****, and coming towards you without using his trademark defence? Well knock the **** out of him, okay?"

Wlad: "Yes, I see this. We use stratigi that we worked on, no? Manny, shall I give you my special kiss now?"

Emmanuel: "No, wait till we're back in the dressing room."

The point? If you've got two heavies that are about two feet taller than everyone else and fifty pounds heavier (no exaggeration) then what do you really have to do? It's like Angelo Dundee getting all the credit he does. I mean, if you were the trainer of Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson you'd have to be a right thick **** to get it wrong, wouldn't you?

I've been saying this for awhile now and I get jumped on for stating it, good luck lol. Hes a very good trainer but also very overrated.

**Welter_Skelter** · 02-17-2008, 03:40 PM

It's not Manny's job to make sure these guys win.. he is more there to make sure you dont lose.. He gives sound advice during the fight.. If you listen(Taylor didn't) he will guide you to an easy victory based on your strenghts and taking as little damage in return as possible..

**Guest** · 02-17-2008, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by Brockton Lip

I've been saying this for awhile now and I get jumped on for stating it, good luck lol. Hes a very good trainer but also very overrated.

Aye. I was amazed to see him get votes in a thread about who is the best trainer right now. I mean, I can understand Yanks not wanting to say Enzo Blow, but there's still Mayweather to vote for.

**TheGreatA** · 02-17-2008, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by !! Anorak

FFS, I meant Leonard.

Brian: "Do you listen to yourself when you talk, Peter?"

Peter Griffin: "I drift in and out."

As for Manny being Hamed's trainer... that partnership worked well, didn't it?

Many of those partnerships didn't work at all. I don't think he is the greatest trainer eva like some do but he does good work with fighters like Lee, Hearns, McClellan, Lewis and Klitschko.

I heard Hearns didn't have any power as an amateur but after Steward teached Hearns how to use his lanky frame for leverage he became a one punch KO artist in the pro's.

**Nacho_Analstain** · 02-17-2008, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by Welter_Skelter

It's not Manny's job to make sure these guys win.. he is more there to make sure you dont lose.. He gives sound advice during the fight.. If you listen(Taylor didn't) he will guide you to an easy victory based on your strenghts and taking as little damage in return as possible..

the ****?

**Fox McCloud** · 02-17-2008, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by !! Anorak

Aye. I was amazed to see him get votes in a thread about who is the best trainer right now. I mean, I can understand Yanks not wanting to say Enzo Blow, but there's still Mayweather to vote for.

Baby, it's Buddy McGirt baby.

You gotta go to the body baby.

Jab his shoulder baby.

Stoppin it baby.

No no, your eye's closed baby.

Tell me why Steward is so regarded as a trainer?