Stop Calling CALZAGHE a good BOXER.

[Kball15]

Taylor a bigger puncher at 168? When Calzaghe sits down him his punches they are very hard and severley underrated. In his first 32 fights he had 28 knockouts which if you compare to Pavlik (32 fights, 29 Kos) isn't much of a difference at all and this was done in a bigger weight class.

He was also fighting very weak british competition and fighting very low grade contenders. Pavliks record is filled with many fighters that had never been stopped before.

In no way is this an insult to Calzaghe, cause he is just not a puncher, but Pavliks 29 KOs in 32 fights is much more impressive then Calzaghes 28 KOs in 32 fights, i think any reasonable guy would agree with that.

And at 168, taylor may hit a little less hard then he does now... but it wont be that much different. I agree that when Calzaghe trys to hit hard he is a hard puncher, but when taylor DOESNT try to hit hard he is a hard puncher. At one point in his career he was considered a DEVESTATING puncher, but because he didnt show that power against Ouma, Spinks, Hopkins, and Wright, the reputation left him. It certainly should have come back against Pavlik

[Unseen]

He was also fighting very weak british competition and fighting very low grade contenders. Pavliks record is filled with many fighters that had never been stopped before.

In no way is this an insult to Calzaghe, cause he is just not a puncher, but Pavliks 29 KOs in 32 fights is much more impressive then Calzaghes 28 KOs in 32 fights, i think any reasonable guy would agree with that.

And at 168, taylor may hit a little less hard then he does now... but it wont be that much different. I agree that when Calzaghe trys to hit hard he is a hard puncher, but when taylor DOESNT try to hit hard he is a hard puncher. At one point in his career he was considered a DEVESTATING puncher, but because he didnt show that power against Ouma, Spinks, Hopkins, and Wright, the reputation left him. It certainly should have come back against Pavlik

calz faced a few ex world champs and some decent folks actually. i think you are someone who hasn't seen more than 20 of his fights if i am right?

[sparked_85]

calz faced a few ex world champs and some decent folks actually. i think you are someone who hasn't seen more than 20 of his fights if i am right?

I can't fathom what fight he has seen.

[RichCCFC]

Calzaghe faced Eubank,Reid,Woodhall, 30-0 undefeated Veit and Omar Sheika in this first 32, that is better than Miranda and Taylor.

[hulme#1]

Some people seem to have these weird aesthetic hang-ups about what a "boxer" is, leading to detractive judgements of fighters' boxing ability that are based on nothing other than the naysayers' arbitrary beliefs of what is or isn't pleasing to the eye.

Hence that recurring "***** fighting his way out of spiderwebs" line.

[sparked_85]

Some people seem to have these weird aesthetic hang-ups about what a "boxer" is, leading to detractive judgements of fighters' boxing ability that are based on nothing other than the naysayers' arbitrary beliefs of what is or isn't pleasing to the eye.

Hence that recurring "***** fighting his way out of spiderwebs" line.

good post.

I think Joe is aesthetically pleasing though. The guy who posted that was an arsehat. Who more than likely thinks all British fighters are ****.

[.::|ULTIMATE|::.]

I think its just the word "boxer" which gets thrown around a lot and has become a word to describe other boxers with PBF or Guzman's style. If you don't fight like that for some odd reason then you aren't labeled a boxer.

The fact of the matter is if you do great in the sport of boxing, you must be a pretty good ****ing boxer no matter if you are going in face first.

[Kball15]

i still completely agree with myself, now more then ever

If he was a good "boxer" (not as in, he is a great fighter in the sport of boxing, but as in his skills are more towards fighting and not boxing and moving) he wouldnt have looked so terrible in his winning effort tonight

[Ryn0]

actually u know what, maybe he IS a good boxer, but he never BOXES and he never will BOX, he is a fighter and has a fighters mentality.

I just love the way that when he get tagged hard he react's as if he was offended and then punishes you for hitting him.