Hopkins' Trainer Not Underestimating Calzaghe

[215Chaingang]

Actually, that was 1 yr, 8 mo ago, and I surely hope you're not suggesting that that 37 year old Tarver (or any Tarver for that matter) was on Joe's level.

it's doesn't matter if he was on joe level he was the top man at the time

[kayjay]

it's doesn't matter if he was on joe level he was the top man at the time

But you wouldn't seriously argue, I hope, that beating Tarver was as good as beating Kessler. Kessler is ten times the fighter Tarver is.

And what about Jermain "Mr. Mediocrity" Taylor?

[Jim Jeffries]

it's doesn't matter if he was on joe level he was the top man at the time

Tarver was 3-2 in his five fights before that, 3 fights against a way past it RJJ and two against a very old Johnson. Top man (which is debatable) doesn't mean much if the division is garbage at the time.

[215Chaingang]

scrap i from the same damn city. its not the city that you from that make you tough its what you went thru to get to where you at. **** i moved to DE just to get out cause it to crazy now. my point if you did not personally know or live with the person you don't what he went thru. that like me saying you didn't grow up hard cause i from the same city. sh@t its not like the man from lower marion or willow grove

[kayjay]

scrap i from the same damn city. its not the city that you from that make you tough its what you went thru to get to where you at. **** i moved to DE just to get out cause it to crazy now. my point if you did not personally know or live with the person you don't what he went thru. that like me saying you didn't grow up hard cause i from the same city. sh@t its not like the man from lower marion or willow grove

Nah I know. Kobe is hard though (Lower Merion).


I'm just playing with these kids who think Hopkins will win on the basis of his being "street" and having gone to the "pen." That doesn't make anyone tough. There are plenty of ******* on the street, and there are great boxers also from middle-class backgrounds.

It all may have made Hopkins the person he is, whatever that means, but it's no advantage. The only ones who think Hopkins has an advantage because of that **** are ****** wannabe kids who have listened to too many rap albums, and that's about 75% of this site.

So leave me, harassing these little punks is my job. I've no problem with you.

[Mr. Ryan]

No more absurd than it is for any fighter to fear any other fighter.

I know you still haven't entirely overcome your hip hop wannabe teenage persona, but you're getting there. I have faith that in two years or so you'll be above buying into this ****. Right now you're still proud you came from Hoboken and you still think it makes you tough.

'Nard wasn't in gang fights anyway. He grew up soft.

1. I directly quoted John David Jackson, I never input a single personal thought in the article.

2. Don't make comments on people you don't know i.e. me. You read about me on a website, but that doesn't mean you know me. Save those comments for assessing your friends.

[215Chaingang]

But you wouldn't seriously argue, I hope, that beating Tarver was as good as beating Kessler. Kessler is ten times the fighter Tarver is.

And what about Jermain "Mr. Mediocrity" Taylor?
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to get this straight kessler has not his prime or near the end of his career so i can't give a fair judgement. with kessler i truely i think he will better than tarver by the end of his career( but some boxer can't get it together after a loss)

i honestly think hopkins could not make weight anymore. to me i thinks both should have been a draw but i did favor hops in the first one

[kayjay]

1. I directly quoted John David Jackson, I never input a single personal thought in the article.

2. Don't make comments on people you don't know i.e. me. You read about me on a website, but that doesn't mean you know me. Save those comments for assessing your friends.

I know your ****. You're transparent. I don't read "about" you. I read what you write.

[2501]

Nah I know. Kobe is hard though (Lower Merion).


I'm just playing with these kids who think Hopkins will win on the basis of his being "street" and having gone to the "pen." That doesn't make anyone tough. There are plenty of ******* on the street, and there are great boxers also from middle-class backgrounds.

It all may have made Hopkins the person he is, whatever that means, but it's no advantage. The only ones who think Hopkins has an advantage because of that **** are ****** wannabe kids who have listened to too many rap albums, and that's about 75% of this site.

So leave me, harassing these little punks is my job. I've no problem with you.

exactly, Marco Antonio Barrera grew up Middleclass and look how far he got.

[Mr. Ryan]

I know your ****. You're transparent. I don't read "about" you. I read what you write.

Okey dokey whatever you say.