Would a younger DLH beat Mayweather (in his prime)?

[Vladimir303]

I think Whitaker was still in his prime. He was unbeaten in his previous 26 fights, in the year prior to DLH he had back to back wins over Rivera and stopped the undefeated Hurtado only 2 1/2 months prior.

Omg, this almost doesn't deserve a response. Everybody knows Whitaker was washed up smoking crack. He was past his prime as it gets. Ask anybody who knows boxing about this and they will tell you.

Not even worth debating.

[Jim Jeffries]

A former super-featherweight beating a natural jr-welterweight at 147. I don't see the problem. He gave Ricky his first loss.

It should mean something to those who picked Ricky to actually win.

Except that you discard Oscar as a former super-featherweight. Hatton had arguably already been beaten at 147 by a fringe contender in Collazo. Oscar gave Hernandez his first loss, Oscar was a former 130 pound titlist beating an undefeated former 130 pound champ, what's the problem?

I bet all my points on Floyd to win, so I'm not sure what you mean by the last comment.

[Vladimir303]

After just looking at the thread creator's avatar picture and realizing just how young he is, I'm gonna just close this thread out with 3 points:

1. The only valid thread like this should be something like "Would a young prime Ray Leonard beat Mayweather" or "Would a young prime Duran or Hearns beat Mayweather", etc,. Floyd right now is a ATG no matter how high you rank him, right alongside Leonard. Oscar is not. He lost his biggest fights that could have sealed his legacy. A great fighter but not an All-time great.

2. Oscar Delahoya's biggest win over a prime fighter was either against Ike Quartey or Fernando Vargas. I'd Say Quartey.

3.

[Jim Jeffries]

Omg, this almost doesn't deserve a response. Everybody knows Whitaker was washed up smoking crack. He was past his prime as it gets. Ask anybody who knows boxing about this and they will tell you.

Not even worth debating.

Yeah, I saw the fight, he looked like a washed up crackhead to me.

His prior record up to the fight proves that he wasn't, 3 BIG wins (2 of them VERY BIG) in the YEAR leading up to the DLH fight proves my point.

[Vladimir303]

Except that you discard Oscar as a former super-featherweight. Hatton had arguably already been beaten at 147 by a fringe contender in Collazo. Oscar gave Hernandez his first loss, Oscar was a former 130 pound titlist beating an undefeated former 130 pound champ, what's the problem?

I bet all my points on Floyd to win, so I'm not sure what you mean by the last comment.

Yes and on May5th 2007, on record, Floyd went down as a 5-division champion beating a 6-divison champion in Oscar. Looks nice on paper.

As far as Hatton, Yes he almost got knocked out by Collazo, something I pointed out when debating Hatton fans about their undefeated lil hero.

[Vladimir303]

Yeah, I saw the fight, he looked like a washed up crackhead to me.

His prior record up to the fight proves that he wasn't, 3 BIG wins (2 of them VERY BIG) in the YEAR leading up to the DLH fight proves my point.

That doesn't mean nothing unless your knowledge comes from boxrec.com. If you saw the fight and you know a young pernell, you know he wasn't what he once was when he fought Oscar.

Plain and simple.


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[Motofan]

Young Oscar would have given Floyd a beating. Young Oscar wouldnt win half the fight and gas out like old Oscar did.

[hopkinsfan69]

To me, Oscar was a completely different fighter when he was younger, around the time he beat Vargas. He would attack without retreat, it was ruthless but at the same time, technical. And now, we don't see that same fire or passion from De La Hoya, instead we see the cautious DLH who looks like he cares more about protecting his "pretty boy" (no Floyd) face rather than winning the fight. It used to be heart that drove him but now it's all about the $$$. So do you think a younger DLH would defeat Mayweather, who is seemingly at his best as we speak?

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[mrpain81]

Who was he a dominant against? What's his biggest victory against a prime fighter?

Beat a better Chicanito Hernandez then the one Floyd beat and quicker.

Destroyed Jesse James Leija in a fashion nobody had done or ever did again.

Destroyed Rafael Reuelas who was a very good fighter at the time.

Clearly beat "Mago" Gonzales who was a very good champ at lightweight moving up.

The reason I say Delahoya would beat Floyd if he was in his prime, is because Delahoya had some really great speed, not as great as Floyd's but he was very quick. Another reason is Delahoya has a great jab when he was acctually throwing it in his fight against Floyd he was doing very good.
Who is a fighter that Floyd beat, that you think a prime Delahoya woulden't have beaten?

I'll take The Delahoya who lost to Shane Mosley and Mosley over Floyd at 147.

I'll take Shane at Lightweight over Floyd.

Who are Floyd's biggest wins?

Close Decisions to Delahoya and Castillo? and his ko over Hatton.

[mrpain81]

Yes, his first fight moving up to 135 and he lost. Floyd defeated him at 130, where he was undefeated his entire career.

Same can be said about Hatton vs Floyd.