Would a younger DLH beat Mayweather (in his prime)?

[DLH11]

He Probably Would've Knocked Floyd Out When He Was In His Prime

[Crazylegs77]

why do you even post only to follow with insults to mayweather fans. that seems to be a trend on this forum currently? poeple who hate floyd focus more on his fans than they do him now and most every poster who insults floyd or even give an honest opinion about him fighting whoever at whatever age or prime tend to follow their opinion with, "awaits floyd fanboys or nuthuggers" or whatever else, and steer away from their points. why worry about us when you can just give your opinion, as we can give ours. what you're seeming to do, and you may not realize is that you're in turn making yourself look like a biased and closeminded poster seeing how you don't even wait until a floyd fan gives their response, rather, you just come with the insults showing me that our opinions are wrong and illogical to you, becase we are not typing in what you want to read, seeinghow you don't feel the same way we do. grow up boy.

now, to answer the threadstarter, a younger de la hoya would not beat floyd and here's why, and i have claimed this on many prior posts. oscar has always had more power than floyd, but has never been faster than him at any weight. faster as him overall speed. he never punched faster than floyd did, but he hit harder and his punches were never as complex and thrown from different angles with precision as floyd was. oscar was an up and down fighter when he was younger. he could counterpunch very well, but against a mayweather at let's say 140 or lower, who threw stiff jabs from fainted angles and off of the back foot standing straight up very well, he would get tagged by the more accurate puncher. oscar's left hook had great power on it, but floyd's defense was 2nd to none, especially at the lower weights. floyd packed power at 130-140 also, not as much as oscar's and oscar's jab was stiff as **** with a great snap to it which he would have to land effectively al night on floyd, and i never seen him doing this. his stamina was better when he was younder was still suspect. floyd would have used oscar's power to slow him down, and floyd went to the body much better than oscar. oscar could hurt floyd badly if he had the right gameplan but he would have a very hard time catching floyd who was so fluent with his movement from any part of the ring. his flexibility was 2nd to none also. oscar wasn't that flexible at all, and tended to look stiff with his upperbody movement. floyd threw punches better and faster. he had tremendous head movement. oscar has decent footwork but opted a lot to hunt his opponents which worked good until he fougt sweet pea and was forced to change his style a little bit which is why his win was controverisal and still is today. floyd was so fast with his upperbody movement you had to slow the angle digest speed down to keep up with him. i gave oscar little to no chance at defeating floyd ever. he was always bigger than floyd, this was obvious, but floyd was more technically brilliant than oscar.

people got caught up in his left hook and combination punching but forget to realize that he was caught a lot when he was younger, floyd was a master blocker and dodger with his extraordinary defense. oscar would not beat floyd at any age, his style was not and is not good enough for floyd. floyd had a tremendous jab also at the lower weights. watch his fight with jukko which ironically on the undercard of one of oscar's fights. floyd's jab however came from more angles while still keeping the speedy snap, power, and accuracy on it, and let's not forget his jab and strait right hand to the body.

floyd's prime imo=140/130
oscar's prime imo=147/130

now, floyd called out oscar for many years and oscar opted not to pay it no mind, he know how great this kid was. even roy jones and lampley agreed that mosley or oscar fighting floyd was a ****** move. roy called floyd a complete fighter, which he really is and was.

how many candles you got burning under the altar Floyds picture is on?

Nope. Floyd never left second gear in his bout with Oscar. He would actually push Floyd to pull out more tricks and when he did, Floyd would come out victorious again. No version of Oscar beats Floyd, although a prime Oscar at 147 has the best chance.

2nd gear? Floyd never left reverse, im starting to think his clutch is shot.

[-Hyperion-]

yep oscar wouldve beat floyd pretty convincingly...the threat of oscars power alone was enough to make floyd almost beat himself because of inactivity....imagine what a more conditioned, more powerful, faster, more technically sound, more hungry DLH wouldve done...

[Drgamma]

DLH over PBF in 99 IMO....old oscar has been "one" of Floyds hardest fights

[Lazy Liberal]

yep oscar wouldve beat floyd pretty convincingly...the threat of oscars power alone was enough to make floyd almost beat himself because of inactivity....imagine what a more conditioned, more powerful, faster, more technically sound, more hungry DLH wouldve done...

Hyperion, Did they show the Chavez Carrasco fight free on tv over there? What did you think of his performance. I thought he was outboxed the whole fight and he is luky CELAYA doesn' hard. I think that Chavez Jr is to confident in his power and it will hurt him in the long run because he might not work on things such as DEFENSE. I just don't have the feeling that he will be a great fighter but then again I could be wrong.

[-Hyperion-]

Hyperion, Did they show the Chavez Carrasco fight free on tv over there? What did you think of his performance. I thought he was outboxed the whole fight and he is luky CELAYA doesn' hard. I think that Chavez Jr is to confident in his power and it will hurt him in the long run because he might not work on things such as DEFENSE. I just don't have the feeling that he will be a great fighter but then again I could be wrong.

yep they showed the fights...he looked like ****ing ****...he throws less punches than hopkins.....i dont think he was ever in danger, though.... he is too ****ing calm for his own good and his defense sucks bollocks....i dont think hes gonna be very good either, his physical advantages may give him the opportunity to be a title holder some day but not a legend....

[Lazy Liberal]

yep they showed the fights...he looked like ****ing ****...he throws less punches than hopkins.....i dont think he was ever in danger, though.... he is too ****ing calm for his own good and his defense sucks bollocks....i dont think hes gonna be very good either, his physical advantages may give him the opportunity to be a title holder some day but not a legend....

I thought he lost the 1st Molina fight and had a draw in the second. What are they saying about the upcoming MArquez bros. fights in el D.F.

[Vladimir303]

To me, Oscar was a completely different fighter when he was younger, around the time he beat Vargas. He would attack without retreat, it was ruthless but at the same time, technical. And now, we don't see that same fire or passion from De La Hoya, instead we see the cautious DLH who looks like he cares more about protecting his "pretty boy" (no Floyd) face rather than winning the fight. It used to be heart that drove him but now it's all about the $$$. So do you think a younger DLH would defeat Mayweather, who is seemingly at his best as we speak?

TD10

No he couldn't. He barely dealth with a past his prime on crack Pernell Whitaker when he was in his prime and escaped with a decision.

And second of all, when Delahoya was in his prime, Floyd was a super-featherweight. That fight could have never been made with both of them being prime. They were weight divsions apart.

At the end of the day, things evened themselfs out at 154 last year. Floyd fought a bigger, stronger opponent in Oscar and Floyd himself wasn't at his prime because jrm.middleweight is not his natural weight. Floyd could still fight at 140 if he wanted to.

[Vladimir303]

DLH over PBF in 99 IMO....old oscar has been "one" of Floyds hardest fights

In 1999, Floyd was a super-featherweight. A very skinny one just coming into his own as a fighter while Oscar had been a champion for years at a higher weight.

It wouldn't be fair to Floyd then. You gotta be kiddin' me.

[-Hyperion-]

I thought he lost the 1st Molina fight and had a draw in the second. What are they saying about the upcoming MArquez bros. fights in el D.F.

yeah i also thought he lost the 1st molina fight

Well, people are hoping JMM wins...but all they know about him is that he is this mexican guy who is fighting that guy who beats on mexicans

Vazquez-Marquez aint getting much attention to my knowledge...