Who has more power at 147 - Mayweather or Mosley?

[Jim Jeffries]

What you are trying to say is that the formula for "power" that many people believe; (speed + timing + accuracy = power) is bogus, right?

No, but Foreman, especially prime Foreman kind of pokes a few holes in it. I think Mosley still has pretty good hand speed, what is lacking most is his footwork and reflexes. If I had to stand there and let one of them hit me in the jaw, I'd pick Floyd, and that's how I answered the thread.

[Silencers]

Mayweather is more accurate but Mosley has more power on his punch.

[Addison]

Mosley is the more powerful puncher. PBF is a very good puncher but he hasn't carried his power up particularly well. PBF has great accuracy and lands super clean punches which at times allows him to stun his opponents but he is not a powerful puncher at 147lbs.

Just look at his fight at 140lbs where he would've carried more of his natural power and you'll see that Gatti wasn't put on the canvas and PBF landed about as many clean punches as a person can land.

Floyd claimed he was trying punish Gatti. It sure looked that way to me. He wasn't explicitly trying to knock Arturo out with those punches.

This looks like pretty good power to me at 140 lbs:

[SkillspayBills]

I just realized there is no way Oscar wins the rematch. Floyd didn't even leave second gear.

[Addison]

No, but Foreman, especially prime Foreman kind of pokes a few holes in it. I think Mosley still has pretty good hand speed, what is lacking most is his footwork and reflexes. If I had to stand there and let one of them hit me in the jaw, I'd pick Floyd, and that's how I answered the thread.

You pick the one guy known as a "freak of nature" as an example?

Not exactly a bulletproof argument..

[Addison]

I just realized there is no way Oscar wins the rematch. Floyd didn't even leave second gear.

Excellent choice of words. This sums up a large aspect of the issue for me.

[Jim Jeffries]

You pick the one guy known as a "freak of nature" as an example?

Not exactly a bulletproof argument..

David Tua, Kelly Pavlik, I could go on........

[Addison]

David Tua, Kelly Pavlik, I could go on........

Tua no, Pavlik yes. And I would say Pavlik is quite the exception as well. Again though, I know this isn't your point nor is it mine. But good examples.

[pbftxrs316]

i'll say shane, but floyd is the sharper puncher with much more accuracy which can generate more ko's. shane tends to throw his punches very sloppy at times. floyd has always been and is still a sharpshotter. his punches look good and thrown rarely sloppy at all, never wild. i'll go with shane still.

just to mention, for those who say floyd's power never really carried at higher weights, he was a monster at 140, and his shots looked powerful as **** with great speed. he didn't manfredy or gomez gatti at this weight class, but he damn near killed him, they just knocked him out. floyd put him through surgery. he did the same with corley and brussles. he buckled oscar 4 times in theri fight, twice in the 5th, once in the 11th, and once in the 12th when osca stumbled back after floyd landed a straight right hand after they clinched up. don't believe me, go back and watch it again, and hear the crowd's reaction to it. oscar was wobbled.

floyd is a huge underrated power puncher, and had he not had bad hands, he knockout ratio would be much greater, i guarantee you.

[Jim Jeffries]

Tua no, Pavlik yes. And I would say Pavlik is quite the exception as well. Again though, I know this isn't your point nor is it mine. But good examples.

Thanks. I think we're both right to an extent. From physics, energy is mass times the square of the velocity. You double the speed, you quadruple the energy, which is why an M-16 bullet which ways almost nothing (like 60 grains) but has very high muzzle velocity (like 3500 fps) can kill someone, even out to 300-400 yds.

Then you have fighters like Malignaggi, with good hand speed, but not much power, compared with say Margarito, significantly less hand speed, but more power. So I'm not really sure.