Cotto, King of the Welters

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  • El Chicano
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    #21
    Originally posted by Killa Cam
    yeah...dominated uppercuttin judahs nuts...and if you didnt see that judah clearly was domninating the first round of that fight, you have no credibility
    Listen to yourself, now it's "the first round" Having one good round does not constitute Domination. Now that we're on the subject who was getting dominated in the first four rounds of the Floyd - Judah fight? And talk about nut uppercuts, Judah is no exception.

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    • moin126
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      #22
      Cotto really doesnt have the tools, he barely beat a old mosely. Prime mayweather? plz snap back to reality.

      Take into consideration, mosely didnt want a boxing match, and judah was out of the ring for a year and coming off a divorce.

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      • Left2body
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        #23
        If PBF is retired then Cotto is the WW King or Champ. If PBF is not retired then Cotto is the WW #1 contender and by FAR the most deserving opponent.

        No one can intelligently argue against that.

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        • El Chicano
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          #24
          Originally posted by moin126
          Cotto really doesnt have the tools, he barely beat a old mosely. Prime mayweather? plz snap back to reality.

          Take into consideration, mosely didnt want a boxing match, and judah was out of the ring for a year and coming off a divorce.
          And Floyd barely beat an old Oscar, Prime Cotto, what's your point.

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          • rebmogul
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            #25
            Originally posted by Puas
            Tonights fight, cemented the fact that Miguel Cotto is at the top of the elite weight class in boxing, 147 pounds. Miguel dismantled "El Indio" inside five brutal and decisive rounds. We didn't really know how good Quintana was until tonight; He proved his worth in defeating and puttin' a whoopin' on the so called Punisher, Paul Williams. And with Williams beating Marg and Marg making Kermit cry, Miguel sits happy on top of the 147 pound wieght class. And it tells us a little something about how good Shane is at this stage of his career. Floyd is irrellevent at this point. He's chosen not to get involved with the best in the division; by avoiding danger I guess he keeps his "P4P" claim, at least that's how everyone else seems to see it. I don't, Floyd's out of the picture, Miguel is the man to beat at 147.
            Based on Cottos performances against an undefeated Quintana (in his 1st welter fight) and Judah, (stopped him when Floyd couldn't like the two jr welters ) and Mosley (another fighter Floyd won't fight), Cotto has clearly accomplished much more than Mayweather.

            Until Mayweather steps up and BEATS ANY top 5 welter, he's not even ranked in the top 5. KOING a jr welter don't mean nothing. I could careless that he got the belt from Baldomir, who got it from Zab. That was just smart match making when the opportunity was right.

            It's all about put up or shut up. This isn't golf this is fightig and he hasn't put up yet...

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            • DrewWoodside
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              #26
              I agree with thread author. In my mind Cotto is WW king by default. If i had to bet my house on who would win between PBF and Cotto i would still have to choose PBF by decision.. But I honestly think Cotto is gaining fast on PBF skill wise. If PBF sits on his laurels for another year, his good name is gonna be in jeopardy. By virtue of who's fought who Cotto has bested everyone in the division except PBF.. he's absolutely done more at WW than PBF.

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              • moin126
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                #27
                Originally posted by Puas
                And Floyd barely beat an old Oscar, Prime Cotto, what's your point.
                did floyd beat oscar Barely? If that is the case, doesnt that justify his decision to rematch him HUH>? Thats what a champ would do.
                the point is, mosely went in with the ******est gameplan vs cotto.
                and he's 37, yet barely lost. Imagine what a floyd mayweather will do to him.
                Oscar on the other hand had the best gameplan, yet still lost.
                Cotto isnt the most defensive briliant fighter, he likes to take a shot, he isnt the most quick guy on his feet, he also has a suspect chin, and a cut inside his mouth. Also poeple say he's got underatted boxing skills, as if his boxing skills make a difference vs the ultimate boxer.

                Floyd will probably exploit that. And win a ud.

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                • javelin_fangs
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Puas
                  And Floyd barely beat an old Oscar, Prime Cotto, what's your point.
                  Barely beat him on the cards, but really if we're honest with ourselves that fight was really 9-3 or 10-2. Oscar won rounds against Floyd the same way he won rounds against Sturm. Name recognition and simply moving his arms. Not by actually landing clean solid punches.


                  But onto much more important matters, I know that's the Home Depot Center so is that picture from last night and do you have more of her?

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                  • Killa Cam
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Puas
                    Listen to yourself, now it's "the first round" Having one good round does not constitute Domination. Now that we're on the subject who was getting dominated in the first four rounds of the Floyd - Judah fight? And talk about nut uppercuts, Judah is no exception.
                    yo ur right b judah got beat the first four rounds of the pbf judah fight, im talkin cotto judah tho, ur right one good round doesnt constitued complete domination, u cant deny in the begginin zab was off to a great start, and got severely slowed down by the...yeha, id like 2 see a cotto judah two, that was 1 of the top five fights last year imo and i tihnk it could went alot dif without the couple of...yeah
                    judah got punished correctly for his pbf lowblow what was it a quarter mil. and a year suspension? somthin like that
                    Last edited by Killa Cam; 02-10-2008, 05:25 PM.

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                    • rebmogul
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by moin126
                      Cotto really doesnt have the tools, he barely beat a old mosely. Prime mayweather? plz snap back to reality.

                      Take into consideration, mosely didnt want a boxing match, and judah was out of the ring for a year and coming off a divorce.
                      i'm sure he doesn't. but we won't ever get to find out until floyd quits fighting
                      cross dressers and takes a real fight.

                      and thats not the kind of fighter I recommend you use to nut hang on...

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