Was Zab Judah Ever A Real Elite Fighter???

**darkvladimir** · 02-06-2008, 09:00 PM

He was a JW champion and undisputed WW champion. Meaning at one time, he was the best WW in the world. If you ask me, that makes you elite. To me, the elite fighters are the ones that are at the top of the division. You often hear people speaking of the "elite level of the sport". That means you're fighting at the top of your division, against the top fighters of your division. Zab was an elite fighter in his prime. He just came up short against better fighters. Just my 2 cents. I know boxing.

**THE REED** · 02-06-2008, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by darkvladimir

Floyd was an elite fighter in his prime. He just came up short against better fighters. Just my 2 cents. I know boxing.

When did floyd come up short? 2cents? you can have a penny... ah nevermind... you know boxing

**Gatti9783** · 02-06-2008, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by reedickyaluss

When did floyd come up short? 2cents? you can have a penny... ah nevermind... you know boxing

Um I think he means Zab came up short

**niceguy45** · 02-06-2008, 09:06 PM

the answer is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

**Scott9945** · 02-06-2008, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by reedickyaluss

I mean theres the fighters that have won championships... then theres the truly ELITE fighters like Ray Leonard, Ali, Mayweather, Jones, Hopkins, Trinidad, Morales, Barrera, Lewis, Tyson... like they werent just paper champions, they were truly elite fighters.... the ones that are truly above the rest.... im on boxec.com, and it looks like outside of Cory Spinks, if you wanna include him, hes lost to every major name...

Lets see

Mickey Ward: W - But was Ward ever an ELITE? I love his fights with Arturo as much as anyone else... but an ELITE?

Junior Witter - W - Dont know enough about him to comment.

Demarcus Corley - W - If you wanna include him.

Corey Spinks - W - TKO9

**I guess it comes down to were these wins good enough to place him at the TRUE ELITE level.
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Kosta Tszyu - L - TKO in the 2nd.

Cory Spinks - L - UD12.

Carlos Baldomir - L - UD12.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. - L - UD12.

Miguel Cotto - L - TKO11.

It just seems, when he truly got to the elite fighters, Baldomir and Spinks depending... he couldnt handle it.

It seems like he has the tools to be elite... but somethings missing...

This isnt a hate Zab thread either, got nothin against the kid.

Good job of research. The only win above that meant anything is the Spinks win, and he needed two times to get that done. I believe that Judah is just another overhyped Brooklyn fighter. The East coast media just loves them.

**darkvladimir** · 02-06-2008, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by reedickyaluss

When did floyd come up short? 2cents? you can have a penny... ah nevermind... you know boxing

Sorry I meant Zab.

**THE REED** · 02-06-2008, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by darkvladimir

Sorry I meant Zab.

ok i forgive

**boxingknight** · 02-06-2008, 09:08 PM

Corey Spinks and Junior Witter are bad asses for that weight class, those are two great wins. The Junior Witter of now would destroy Zab though

**darkvladimir** · 02-06-2008, 09:10 PM

Ok guys, well lets all determine what makes a fighter elite? The level off opposition hes faced, his rankings, his wins vs. his losses, what?

Was Zab Judah Ever A Real Elite Fighter???