Multiple Weight Champion doesn'nt always give a fair reflection of a fighters legacy

[htowntexan08]

for instance, cotto is a 2 division titlist.

he won a vacant wba 147 lb. belt on his first fight up from 140 (barring early career fights when he didn't make the weight)

does anyone picture de la fishnet making 130 or 135 in the days of same-day weigh ins? was jimmy breadhl a legitimate top fighter at 130?

when pbf beat gatti for the wbc belt @ 140, how good was gatti compared to the other titlists? tszyu or hatton probably would have destroyed gatti. cotto most likely would have too. harris, well, the next floyd beat gatti, harris was getting beaten up by maussa, so maybe that's one titlist that gatti would have beaten.

it doesnt matter, there have been plenty of guys that should not have been champs. but to be a champ you must beat a champ. if you get lucky and win, oh well you still won. Like shannopn brigggs, he got a lucky punch and became champ. you cant deny that he was a champ if he beat the champ. If it was lucky or not, a win is a win is a win.

[Dynamite Kid]

he was a Heavyweight champion, he owned 1 of the 3 belts.

i understand what your saying but what im saying is Roy can now make a blanket statment like i was Heavyweight Champion of th World & striclty speaking he was & in the Boxing hall of fame it will say on his record or in the what he acheived as a fighter ,however it does'nt tell u the intangables of his biggest win the things we are well aware & the circumstances he aquired that status in etc

that Balnket statement Roy Heavyeweight Champion will go down in Boixng history books but it will not tell us the reallity of the situation so people get a distorted example of what Roy acheived at that time

[THE REED]

well...... we all know my opinion.. soo....

[TheGreatA]

I'd rate Toney's career as a heavyweight much more impressive than Roy's even though he didn't capture the title (he did but failed the drug tests).

Still, he fought big punchers like Rahman and Peter and gave both of them good fights. He also destroyed old man Holyfield and whooped Ruiz (with steroids).

[htowntexan08]

So if I take the backstreets to get to the same place your going using the main roads, and we end up in the same spot it doesnt matter, we are still at the same spot. If you takes a shortcut to the belt and I take the long ways to a belt, regardless we are both champions no matter the circumstances. The only thing that matters is that we both got there. How can you say that Toney had a better HW career? It all goes down to the belt. I rather fight a bum and win a belt than fight good names and never be champ.

[Dynamite Kid]

If there were'nt any recognised Number 1 in the division at the time then u could make a case that Roy was a legit Heavyweight Champion ,but the fact that there was a legit Undsiputed recognised numbeer 1 at the time means when u say RJJ heavweight Champ it is just a blanket statement to fool people

[htowntexan08]

how does it fool people? It is as easy as 1 2 3. Belt = Champion. plain and simple. you can break it down every way that you want but at the end of the day 2+2=4. its that easy.

[Dynamite Kid]

So if I take the backstreets to get to the same place your going using the main roads, and we end up in the same spot it doesnt matter, we are still at the same spot. If you takes a shortcut to the belt and I take the long ways to a belt, regardless we are both champions no matter the circumstances. The only thing that matters is that we both got there. How can you say that Toney had a better HW career? It all goes down to the belt. I rather fight a bum and win a belt than fight good names and never be champ.

Lewis had to go through Ruddock ,,Golota ,Holy,Tyson ,Tua , to auqire his status as number 1 ,u are telling u RJJ only needed to beat Ruiz then go back down to 175 to recieve the acclaim Lennox has

[Dynamite Kid]

how does it fool people? It is as easy as 1 2 3. Belt = Champion. plain and simple. you can break it down every way that you want but at the end of the day 2+2=4. its that easy.

its like the commentator says when u have an undefeated untested prospect whats behind the numbers ,IE what are the Intangibles

[Dynamite Kid]

Sugar Boy Malinga & Nardiello both Won World Titles at SMW ,Herol Graham was a far better fighter than either of these & would have schooled both with ease

it comes down to opurtunity & the other intangibles ,it dont mean u are a top fighter cause u hold a belt Ruiz was the worst Heavywegiht Champ ive ever seen