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  • crillz
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    #31
    Originally posted by adrsan84
    Crillz, I'll bet you 10k on the fight. I see what you're saying but I think you are confusing skill and potential with being the better fighter. Margarito may not be as skilled and doesn't have as much pop, but he can take Cintron's punch and he can hit hard enough to discourage and stop Cintron. I think the fight is going to be more competitive this time but when Margarito starts landing power shots while walking through Cintron's best stuff Cintron is going to get discouraged and eventually get stopped. Cintron's lack of heart and will compared to Margarito is what makes me think he is not the better fighter, despite his other advantages.

    Just look at the domination, it wasn't close, it was an ass whooping, the better man would not have gotten spanked and stopped like that. The better man can get rocked and stopped by a lucky punch, but margarito put a hurting on him that spanned 5 rounds.

    we can definitely bet but Taylor and Pavlik is coming and so is Klitschko-Ibragimov, I just ain't trying to put such a large chunk of my points on a fight thats so far away but I'll bet with you though homie just keep me in mind the week of the fight, by then we can probably bet more than 10K.. see I watched that fight when it went down and you can CLEARLY see the difference between the 2 versions of himself. he was just ****ing away recklessly with no discretion to defense or his jab, he didn't think about his punches he just wailed off at any opening he could find, there was no precision to his punches they were just thrown to land hard and not to land in a specific spot, there was no skills demonstrated as opposed to the Feliciano and Mathysse fight where you clearly see the influence from Manny Steward in his style.

    he used his jab to set up his shots he didn't go rounds at a time not doubling up on his jab and punching smart, he fought Tony's fight, key words is TONY'S fight so basically in that kind of free for all punch kind of fight where you got 2 guys just ****ing away with no defense Kermit stood no chance against someone who has been successfully fighting that way against world class opposition. it was the wrong approach and Kermit went 5 hard rounds, kissed the floor 4 times if I'm not mistaken and just was out pointed but that Kermit in that fight is only a shell of what he is now, he actually has a style ya feel me. the pressure, and I'm realizing this after peeping the vid you put up because I ain't see the fight in a while, the pressure didn't play such a big part, maybe the mental pressure but they were BOTH coming forward fighting the same kind of fight throwing the same amount of pressure to one another it's just that style wasn't suited for Kermit and it showed. with his new skills you'll see how the speed of the fight will be different, Kermit will fight smarter and listen to Manny.

    I'm a real cat yo and I ain't no sore loser, much like in the Trinidad-Jones Jr fight where my favorite fighter lost I paid up and manned up to me being wrong, it's nothing to me so if I'm wrong about Cintron winning then yo this is Boxing what else you want? but I'll guarantee you one thing, as long as he utilizes his skills you'll see a different overall fight. I'm confident in Cintron, I pick him to win and will bet with you come fight week, dude is a monster but so is Tony, I like both of them but I pick Kermit.

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    • adrsan84
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      #32
      Originally posted by crillz
      we can definitely bet but Taylor and Pavlik is coming and so is Klitschko-Ibragimov, I just ain't trying to put such a large chunk of my points on a fight thats so far away but I'll bet with you though homie just keep me in mind the week of the fight, by then we can probably bet more than 10K.. see I watched that fight when it went down and you can CLEARLY see the difference between the 2 versions of himself. he was just ****ing away recklessly with no discretion to defense or his jab, he didn't think about his punches he just wailed off at any opening he could find, there was no precision to his punches they were just thrown to land hard and not to land in a specific spot, there was no skills demonstrated as opposed to the Feliciano and Mathysse fight where you clearly see the influence from Manny Steward in his style.

      he used his jab to set up his shots he didn't go rounds at a time not doubling up on his jab and punching smart, he fought Tony's fight, key words is TONY'S fight so basically in that kind of free for all punch kind of fight where you got 2 guys just ****ing away with no defense Kermit stood no chance against someone who has been successfully fighting that way against world class opposition. it was the wrong approach and Kermit went 5 hard rounds, kissed the floor 4 times if I'm not mistaken and just was out pointed but that Kermit in that fight is only a shell of what he is now, he actually has a style ya feel me. the pressure, and I'm realizing this after peeping the vid you put up because I ain't see the fight in a while, the pressure didn't play such a big part, maybe the mental pressure but they were BOTH coming forward fighting the same kind of fight throwing the same amount of pressure to one another it's just that style wasn't suited for Kermit and it showed. with his new skills you'll see how the speed of the fight will be different, Kermit will fight smarter and listen to Manny.

      I'm a real cat yo and I ain't no sore loser, much like in the Trinidad-Jones Jr fight where my favorite fighter lost I paid up and manned up to me being wrong, it's nothing to me so if I'm wrong about Cintron winning then yo this is Boxing what else you want? but I'll guarantee you one thing, as long as he utilizes his skills you'll see a different overall fight. I'm confident in Cintron, I pick him to win and will bet with you come fight week, dude is a monster but so is Tony, I like both of them but I pick Kermit.
      Sounds good to me, and I respect the fact that you have confidence in Kermit to stick to his fight, but i haven't seen that and I didn't like the way he looked when he encountered adversity against Feliciano so I'll keep my pick.

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      • crillz
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        #33
        Originally posted by adrsan84
        Sounds good to me, and I respect the fact that you have confidence in Kermit to stick to his fight, but i haven't seen that and I didn't like the way he looked when he encountered adversity against Feliciano so I'll keep my pick.
        much respect. that had more to do with his hurt hand against Feliciano. do this though fam get both the Feliciano fight and the Margarito fight and analyze Kermit's style, notice the changes that happened, factor in the hurt hand though ya feel me because had that hand not been hurt I don't think it would have even took him that long nor would he have gotten hit as hard. Tony is a beast so I definitely respect that choice and I can't lie I would love to see Cotto-Margarito but I just think Cintron will win and **** up those plans.

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          #34
          Margarito will KO Cintron and make him cry like a little ***** again.

          Cintron = Overrated Paper Champ

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            #35
            Originally posted by steelhead
            good post. thats how i see it.
            cintron beat feliciano with one hand.
            with manny in his corner and healthy hands outcome second time around will be different.
            Obviously you did NOT SEE the fight because he did not beat him with one hand. He supposable hurt his hand in round two but yet he continued to throw hard punches with his right. if was really injured and adrenaline didnt let him feel much pain he would have broke his hand and would not be able to continue at all. It's funny he was throwing full force punches after punches with that right hand all fight. If he wouldnt have fell and cried like a ***** pretending to be hurt you would have never guessed he had an injury. everyone in the sport trainers, promoters, and fighters have called his bluff as just an excuse for his performance. everyone knows he wasnt hurt.

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              #36
              Originally posted by adrsan84
              Crillz, I'll bet you 10k on the fight. I see what you're saying but I think you are confusing skill and potential with being the better fighter. Margarito may not be as skilled and doesn't have as much pop, but he can take Cintron's punch and he can hit hard enough to discourage and stop Cintron. I think the fight is going to be more competitive this time but when Margarito starts landing power shots while walking through Cintron's best stuff Cintron is going to get discouraged and eventually get stopped. Cintron's lack of heart and will compared to Margarito is what makes me think he is not the better fighter, despite his other advantages.

              Just look at the domination, it wasn't close, it was an ass whooping, the better man would not have gotten spanked and stopped like that. The better man can get rocked and stopped by a lucky punch, but margarito put a hurting on him that spanned 5 rounds.
              ill take a 10K bet on this.

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              • mrrupo
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                #37
                Originally posted by rogelio1289
                Obviously you did NOT SEE the fight because he did not beat him with one hand. He supposable hurt his hand in round two but yet he continued to throw hard punches with his right. if was really injured and adrenaline didnt let him feel much pain he would have broke his hand and would not be able to continue at all. It's funny he was throwing full force punches after punches with that right hand all fight. If he wouldnt have fell and cried like a ***** pretending to be hurt you would have never guessed he had an injury. everyone in the sport trainers, promoters, and fighters have called his bluff as just an excuse for his performance. everyone knows he wasnt hurt.
                first off, he hurt it in round 1 and told manny about it in between rounds 1/2 and 2/3, that is evidence enough cuz it's on tape. cintron did not throw the right hand all fight, he threw it a few times in the mid rounds, but he more or less slapped with it, he only started to throw it hardonce he smelled blood. download the fight and watch it again. feliciano would have never been able to get inside had cintron had full use of his hand. manny steward told cintron to let feliciano inside so he would wear himself out, and once that happened he told cintron to take the fight back outside, which he did and KO'd him. feliciano was done after round 1, that was clear, but cintron stopped using the right hand and started throwing big left hooks (you ever heard anyone refer to cintron's left hook?? cuz i havent?)

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                • crillz
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by mrrupo
                  first off, he hurt it in round 1 and told manny about it in between rounds 1/2 and 2/3, that is evidence enough cuz it's on tape. cintron did not throw the right hand all fight, he threw it a few times in the mid rounds, but he more or less slapped with it, he only started to throw it hardonce he smelled blood. download the fight and watch it again. feliciano would have never been able to get inside had cintron had full use of his hand. manny steward told cintron to let feliciano inside so he would wear himself out, and once that happened he told cintron to take the fight back outside, which he did and KO'd him. feliciano was done after round 1, that was clear, but cintron stopped using the right hand and started throwing big left hooks (you ever heard anyone refer to cintron's left hook?? cuz i havent?)
                  Exactly.. I don't take that bet because I have very few points to work with, I'm going to bet on Cintron but I'll wait to fight week so I'll have more points by then and wont have to wait months for the fight. you hit it on the head though homie that post was on point.. it's like I told the hater ***** above, he already has a vested dislike for Cintron so if it isn't his excuses it's that he has no heart, if it ain't no heart it's he ducked Williams, if it ain't ducking Williams it's faking a hand injury when in all actuality none of those things are true, the truth is he's a ****ing fan boy hater who is a fan of Boxer's not Boxing.. to not be able to point out at least 1 good thing about a guy like Cintron is to have hate running threw the veins he be shooting up the dope he's high off.

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                  • ElGranLuchador
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                    #39
                    so they gonna have some tissues in his corner this time?

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                      #40
                      This board is going to war1 now that pinoys are going to get help from the puerto ricans in boxing vs. the Mexicans.

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