Steward: "Cintron Will Be Ready For Margarito"

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

Somebody should get ktfo! I hope its Margie but mite Cintron. Just give me a good fight! The division needs to be solidified.

[sterling]

hope he puts up more of a fight this time

[crillz]

So Cintron is better than Margarito even though Margarito knocked him out and destroyed him in 5 rounds? Are you serious? Do you know anything about boxing? Use some plain and basic common sense, will ya?

yo ******* pull ya head out ya ass for a second, there are PLENTY of better fighters who lost to lesser fighters due to 1 reason or the next, Wladimir Klitschko lost to Corrie Sanders on the very same reason Cintron lost and Wladimir was worst because he was just ROCKED he didn't just loaf around to where the referee just decided it was enough, Wlad point blank couldn't continue yo he was ROCKED. another scenario which is similar but not so similar is Vernon Forrest VS Ricardo Mayorga, the better fighter lost to the lesser fighter due to lack of usage in skills, difference is Vernon was capable of a better offense and Cintron AT THE TIME wasn't, that shoulder injury didn't help him either.

Cintron is the better fighter because he possess more skills. in terms of punching his KO ratio ****s on Tony's, he actually has text book skills now due to an old school trainer who saw something in him and worked on him, made him a more fierce opponent and him being such an improved fighter showed he had that in him before he just didn't realize it. he's a better fighter than Tony but even better fighters lose to lesser fighters under the right circumstances, anyone who watches Boxing knows this, it goes back to Ali-Frazier *******, the question here is do YOU know Boxing?

[ANDROID_DOES]

see you got it ****ed up *****, you only looking at **** under 1 light which ain't good, if you gonna compare Cintron-Margarito to anything compare it to Klitschko-Brewster where Wladimir possessed all the tools to beat Lamon but didn't know how to cope with the pressure nor wasn't as skilled at the time to even the odds, once he learned how to deal with the pressure, use his jab and just overall better position himself to land his shots he won, same with Cintron. see what you fail to realize is that Cintron didn't put no effort to get up, he went down.. granted.. but the fact that he got up and did nothing showed that he clearly wasn't straight up there, he went in against another puncher who was able to eat threw his shots and still come forward, I didn't say Cintron hurt Margarito, I know he didn't and that was part of his problem in there, when he couldn't hurt homie he had no other means of offense and it discouraged him.

his jab is powerful now, you see how it helped him in the Mathysse and Feliciano fight, he uses it more and doesn't just throw it he knows WHEN to use it and sets up his shots off it, he does A LOT of things differently now than he did against Margarito that night. Cintron is tougher than you think yo he was just discouraged because in his head he had no answer so in his mind he failed, no excuse, he lost no matter what, check the books and you'll see TKO but my point is that there is a BIG difference with him in the Mathysse and Feliciano fight, he was a smarter fighter, he had better instruction, he showed he can be dangerous in the later rounds, he just overall showed MORE than what he showed against Tony. Tony was the better man that night but he isn't the better fighter, just like Lamon was the better man that night but he isn't the better fighter is what I'm telling you.

I said the fight was still competitive because Cintron was still throwing punches and still landing shots it's just Tony was landing more, competitive in the fact that he wasn't just a punching bag Tony was just winning the fight but if you notice Cintron was exchanging like a mother****er he was just getting the worst of it until he just dropped the ball. watch how in the rematch he's going to impose his skills. people think Cintron is soft but he ain't, he can box but you don't credit him with that because you have a vested dislike for him but against Feliciano whether his hand was broken or not it was still hurt, it was medically proven yo and that was from the 2nd round so from the 2nd round against a guy who was like a rock in the skull, a tune up gone wrong he managed to box his way into a stoppage, he used skills to whether the pressure and showed heart for not giving into the punches he was taking which rocked him, punches he didn't expect..

I am not wasting my time. Obviously you are on cintrons nuts! i am going to bookmark this page and i will repost it for you once margarito wins and we will see what you have to say then. and when margarito beats him cintron and his fans will be burried and can forget about ever being considered a real contender

[STEELHEAD]

all the first fight showed me was that Cintron needed some SERIOUS work and guess what? he's been worked on. I saw the Feliciano fight live homie and Kermit had a hurt hand, a hurt hand can turn a win into a loss just ask Joshua Clottey who whipped on your boy at will until has hands gave out. you talk about Feliciano like the guy ain't tough, like his chin ain't strong, Kermit was ****ing away and ended up hurting his hand before knocking him out, you can't measure determination and despite whatever may have occurred in his career Feliciano came determined to win, only Cintron came a bit more determined, so determined that with such an extreme pain in his hand he knocked out Feliciano.

talk all you want about the first fight but until it was stopped the fight was still competitive and Kermit could have gone the 12 it's just he didn't have the will and didn't utilize his skill, he was so busy exchanging he never once tried to utilize that HIGHLY effective jab to set up shots and create distance, he went blow for blow and didn't even get blown out he just stopped trying, he just threw punches just to throw them and not have any real significance on the fight, he didn't even dispute the stoppage nor showed any ambition to get up and keep fighting, Tony just threw the punches but Kermit stopped the fight long before the ref stopped it, he didn't respond even though physically he was able to but mentally he self destructed, something went off and he just didn't want to be in there anymore, he couldn't answer, now he can.

Kermit will win this fight and if he doesn't he will lose in the same EXACT way mark my words, if Kermit losses it will be a mirror image of the first fight where he ain't doing what he SHOULD be doing and pays for it, maybe trying to prove a point in who's tougher or just fighting mad and not smart.as long as he uses his jab, throws combinations, imposes himself on Tony and backs him up, stays aggressive but doesn't allow big exchanges then he will have a great night. regardless of outcome Cintron is a better skilled fighter, he isn't so straight forward and can PUNCH. they think they are setting up Margarito-Cotto but what they might end up with is Cotto-Cintron.

good post. thats how i see it.
cintron beat feliciano with one hand.
with manny in his corner and healthy hands outcome second time around will be different.

[crillz]

Cintron is more skilled and in theory has more weapons, but he didn't use them in the fight. I'm sorry man that doesn't make him the better fighter, Margarito may not be as skilled or even as powerful but he uses every ounce of strength, will and chin to win his fights. On the other hand Cintron has the talent but his lack of will didn't allow him to impose his skill on Margarito, so, I think when it comes down to it Cintron is not the better fighter and the rematch will reinforce that.

I respect your opinion, however I disagree. see I don't think a loss makes you a lesser fighter, Judah lost to Baldomir but you can't call Judah a lesser fighter, he was even dropped and I think it was due to the circumstances, see when you don't expect something and didn't prepare for it or when something exceeded your expectations, turned out to be something you didn't think would be so hard it bothers you and in the case of Cintron who got beat in his own game, who thought it was his coming out party and was in the biggest stage of his career it was a lot of pressure and I don't mean just the pressure from Tony, A LOT of things played a part even though Tony was the biggest factor. he hadn't been approached like that and he wasn't properly skilled at the time to deal with someone who was so powerful.

now Cintron has the tools to Box around Tony and not engage so much, he can Box when he's hurt and fight when he's not ya dig as opposed to Tony who only comes 1 way, Kermit's boxing ability will find him catching better opportunities and if, and thats a big IF, if he can deal with the pressure that TONY brings he can cruise to a win, he just needs to find his rhythm and dictate the pace whether it be a fast pace or slow, the point is to get his **** off first.. with a good jab and smart punching he can get his **** off.

Tony may just very well win due to consistent pressure and doesn't stop coming forward but you have to also consider Kermit, he only lost once and in his last fight he was impressive, the way he handled his injury and pressed forward to then go and stop his opponent, a rugged dude, in a round he never stopped anybody in was excellent, he was hurt and managed to re establish himself and he's hungry, I like his chances but I say he's a better fighter because he has more skills, he can switch up his offense as opposed to 1 way of fighting. that 1 way can work but if it's your only way and it doesn't work then thats your line but I say Kermit is a better fighter because due to his skills he is more versatile and can use other means to land his shots.

[adrsan84]

Crillz, I'll bet you 10k on the fight. I see what you're saying but I think you are confusing skill and potential with being the better fighter. Margarito may not be as skilled and doesn't have as much pop, but he can take Cintron's punch and he can hit hard enough to discourage and stop Cintron. I think the fight is going to be more competitive this time but when Margarito starts landing power shots while walking through Cintron's best stuff Cintron is going to get discouraged and eventually get stopped. Cintron's lack of heart and will compared to Margarito is what makes me think he is not the better fighter, despite his other advantages.

Just look at the domination, it wasn't close, it was an ass whooping, the better man would not have gotten spanked and stopped like that. The better man can get rocked and stopped by a lucky punch, but margarito put a hurting on him that spanned 5 rounds.

[crillz]

I am not wasting my time. Obviously you are on cintrons nuts! i am going to bookmark this page and i will repost it for you once margarito wins and we will see what you have to say then. and when margarito beats him cintron and his fans will be burried and can forget about ever being considered a real contender

unlike your ignorant ass I am a fan of no fighter, I am a fan of Boxing! I don't look at **** in a biased point of view nor do I hate on anyone, I speak what I see and by what I see Cintron was mentally affected, something like Trinidad was against Winky and Jones in the 2nd half where he just didn't let his hands go, the man had no answers and it showed so sometimes when a fighter is affected mentally it can affect him physically, in Kermit's case we saw him slowly breaking down and showing less and less effort because of the pressure he was under, it rubbed him wrong and may very well rub him wrong again.

I didn't say Tony couldn't win the fight, in fact I told you how he would win IF he does but I also told you how Kermit would win if HE does. if Tony wins then best believe it'll be due to Kermit not being able to take his kind of pressure, Tony is the type who can take EVERYTHING you throw at him and keep coming with shots that'll put you to sleep, Kermit might not be able to deal with that skills or no skills but then again Kermit has improved immensely as a fighter, what he didn't do before he does now and even though Feliciano ain't no Margarito Cintron showed great skills, he showed heart, will, skills, determination, obedience to his trainer and Manny knows his **** so if he listens to Manny he will win. Margarito can beat the instructions out of his ear though, so it can go either way I just think Kermit stands a better chance than what you give him.

save this thread all you want ***** cuz you'll prove nothing, in the midst of all these back and fourth posts i still haven't made a prediction so I'll make one now, I pick Kermit Cintron to win. I can't lie Tony makes me nervous in this but I lean more towards Cintron because the dude can **** and he has skills as opposed to someone who can only ****, I can see Cintron defending pretty good and using skills to out do Tony but TRUST and believe when I tell you Tony might knock him out again, it all depends on how Kermit goes about it, if he boxes smart and throws the right punches then he can cruise but if Tony gets his **** off then he wins, Tony can only win 1 way and thats sheer pressure, out hustling the boxer and forcing the fight but if Kermit can neutralize that he can win. something like Clottey-Margarito he just has to throw at the right times and make himself hard to hit flush. I got Cintron but I know who Tony is I was just trying to pull your fan boy head out of your ass and make you show some respect to Cintron because win lose or draw he called out somebody who's been ducked for years, that took heart I don't give a damn about what you say, he got heart and deserves respect. another long ass post to piss you off.

[ippo]

Marg is going to beat him down just like last time.

[juanroldan]

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