Why its so hard to stay undefeated.

[tredh]

Hey, man. I read your post three times and I don't get your point, or why you claim to have proven it. If anything, I see your post as proving my point.

At the risk of sounding repetitive, fighters are considered great because they compete with other great fighters. It is how they compete in these toughest of fights that matters, not whether they actually win them all. That is why guys like Duran, SRL, MAB, etc are genuinely great fighters while so many others just go around telling the world that they are.

Sugar Ray Leonard, one of my favorite fighters all-time, fought and beat many great fighters, so he is without question a great fighter himself. He lost to Duran because Duran imposed his style and will on him. Duran was able to do this because he was also a great fighter. Even great fighters will lose if they fail to perform their best against other great fighters, and that is my general point. On the other hand, it doesn't take a special fighter to build up an undefeated record against a bunch of average joes. For whatever reason, a lot of fans are still mezmerized by an undefeated record though.

Actually I was thinking about other **** when responding to your first post(I'm at work). But I agree with what your saying but it is very possible for a fighter to fight the best competition and remain undefeated. Duran didn't impose his will in the first fight SRL fought Duran's fight because of all the **** Duran talked and did before the fight. SRL was so mad that he wanted to beat Duran fighting Duran's style of fight even though that wouldn't give him the best chance to win. But overall you are very correct lost track trying to reply and do work is not the best policy.

[THE REED]

Actually I was thinking about other **** when responding to your first post(I'm at work). But I agree with what your saying but it is very possible for a fighter to fight the best competition and remain undefeated. Duran didn't impose his will in the first fight SRL fought Duran's fight because of all the **** Duran talked and did before the fight. SRL was so mad that he wanted to beat Duran fighting Duran's style of fight even though that wouldn't give him the best chance to win. But overall you are very correct lost track trying to reply and do work is not the best policy.

that is a true point... i agree w both of you

[NachoMan]

as much as nacho pisses me off time to time... i agree with him

Thanks, man. We agree on more than you think.

[JoartCC]

I think the reason its so hard to stay undefeated once you hit the 40-0+ mark, is because people are smart, fighters are smart, they adapt... they will study you, they will break down your every move... until they realize ok this is what this guy is doing, and this is how I neutralize it... Most guys fight a certain way, it works for them, they win.. they keep doing it.. what they dont realize is, it will eventually work against them.

The longer you stay undefeated, the longer you remain at the top... the more you are wanted to be beaten, the more fighters will try to formulate the solution to neutralize your every execution. And they will do it.

Not to sound like a broken record but it goes with roy as well... the guy was unbeatable for so long, Tarver spent his whole career training and studying to beat roy... even though i think Roy is still the better fighter... tarver did come in with a good gameplan and stuck to his guns, and did his best to neutralize Jones...

Fighters will eventually break down a fighter... until they solve the puzzle... there doing it right now on Floyd... no ones cracked the puzzle yet, but there trying... look at oscar when he went to see hatton training... telling him about when floyd does this... hes open right here.. when he does that... try doing this... Did it work? no, not this time... but there talking about it, there studying tapes, there formulating ideas, plans... there trying to break him down.. and it hasnt happened yet... but if history has shown us one thing... its that it will...

As they start breaking down how you fight... your getting older and slower every day... This isnt based around Floyd, I love floyd as a fighter... but he is a solid example... he wont retire... he loves the spot light too much... he will fight past his prime, to much attention, to much money... he WILL slow down, and fighters will know exactly what he will do, and what to expect... and father-time WILL make it easier for them to execute it. Ive seen to many fighters who were deemed unbeatable... only to be beaten...

History has shown us this.. and it WILL continue to repeat itself.

With that said, God Bless Rocky Marciano.

A lot of words which means ****.

It's not hard to stay undefeated.

Just do what Fake FLoyd does.

Pick the weaker ones and the guys he can surely beat and stay away from Freitas, Casamayor, Spafa, Kostya, Cotto, Margarito, Williams. Mosley.

And for all the Fake FLoyd fans I WANT YOU TO EDUCATE YOURSELVES ALL.

UNDEFEATED PROVES NOTHING.

You guys are old enough to have common sense yet you seem to lack one.

[THE REED]

A lot of words which means ****.

It's not hard to stay undefeated.

Just do what Fake FLoyd does.

Pick the weaker ones and the guys he can surely beat and stay away from Freitas, Casamayor, Spafa, Kostya, Cotto, Margarito, Williams. Mosley.

And for all the Fake FLoyd fans I WANT YOU TO EDUCATE YOURSELVES ALL.

UNDEFEATED PROVES NOTHING.

You guys are old enough to have common sense yet you seem to lack one.

What kind of hater ass comment is that?