Why its so hard to stay undefeated.

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  • THE REED
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    Why its so hard to stay undefeated.

    I think the reason its so hard to stay undefeated once you hit the 40-0+ mark, is because people are smart, fighters are smart, they adapt... they will study you, they will break down your every move... until they realize ok this is what this guy is doing, and this is how I neutralize it... Most guys fight a certain way, it works for them, they win.. they keep doing it.. what they dont realize is, it will eventually work against them.

    The longer you stay undefeated, the longer you remain at the top... the more you are wanted to be beaten, the more fighters will try to formulate the solution to neutralize your every execution. And they will do it.

    Not to sound like a broken record but it goes with roy as well... the guy was unbeatable for so long, Tarver spent his whole career training and studying to beat roy... even though i think Roy is still the better fighter... tarver did come in with a good gameplan and stuck to his guns, and did his best to neutralize Jones...

    Fighters will eventually break down a fighter... until they solve the puzzle... there doing it right now on Floyd... no ones cracked the puzzle yet, but there trying... look at oscar when he went to see hatton training... telling him about when floyd does this... hes open right here.. when he does that... try doing this... Did it work? no, not this time... but there talking about it, there studying tapes, there formulating ideas, plans... there trying to break him down.. and it hasnt happened yet... but if history has shown us one thing... its that it will...

    As they start breaking down how you fight... your getting older and slower every day... This isnt based around Floyd, I love floyd as a fighter... but he is a solid example... he wont retire... he loves the spot light too much... he will fight past his prime, to much attention, to much money... he WILL slow down, and fighters will know exactly what he will do, and what to expect... and father-time WILL make it easier for them to execute it. Ive seen to many fighters who were deemed unbeatable... only to be beaten...

    History has shown us this.. and it WILL continue to repeat itself.

    With that said, God Bless Rocky Marciano.
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    #2
    I agree. Good post.

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    • SkillspayBills
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      #3
      I concur man good post.

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      • Darkstar
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        #4
        Did Glen Johnson spend his whole life studyin Roy Jones too?

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        • THE REED
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          #5
          Originally posted by Darkstar
          Did Glen Johnson spend his whole life studyin Roy Jones too?
          No but he sure did get sloppy seconds.

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          • MELLY-MEL...
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            good post man, and thats why i love marciano so much! say what u want his record still stands, and that is impressive!

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            • Dice
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              Its also hard to stay undefeated because you lose your hunger after awhile.

              Its like if your dead broke and need a job, you'll be happy as hell to work at any part-time, but once your bills are under control and you've worked there for some time you start to say "damn I hate this job" as opposed to "man i'm thankful for this job".

              Guys like Roy Jones, Mike Tyson, they lose focus, which causes them to under train. Lennox Lewis should be undefeated but he had no interest in McCall or Rahman and was under prepared.

              Mayweather has the best shot to stay undefeated because he doesn't take anyone lightly even if he knows he'll beat them, and trains like a monster.

              Marciano was undefeated cuz unlike others, the spotlight wasn't strong enough to make him fight past his prime and he retired at the right time

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              • THE REED
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                #8
                Originally posted by Dice
                Its also hard to stay undefeated because you lose your hunger after awhile.

                Its like if your dead broke and need a job, you'll be happy as hell to work at any part-time, but once your bills are under control and you've worked there for some time you start to say "damn I hate this job" as opposed to "man i'm thankful for this job".

                Guys like Roy Jones, Mike Tyson, they lose focus, which causes them to under train. Lennox Lewis should be undefeated but he had no interest in McCall or Rahman and was under prepared.

                Mayweather has the best shot to stay undefeated because he doesn't take anyone lightly even if he knows he'll beat them, and trains like a monster.

                Marciano was undefeated cuz unlike others, the spotlight wasn't strong enough to make him fight past his prime and he retired at the right time

                No, thats what he SAYS.. not what he thinks IMO... he says that to look good for people... look at what he says im not the best fighter ever, nobody will ever beat me.... they CANT beat me... and its that mentality that will destory him... roy and mike thought the same... and everyone else thought so too..

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                • pbftxrs316
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dice
                  Its also hard to stay undefeated because you lose your hunger after awhile.

                  Its like if your dead broke and need a job, you'll be happy as hell to work at any part-time, but once your bills are under control and you've worked there for some time you start to say "damn I hate this job" as opposed to "man i'm thankful for this job".

                  Guys like Roy Jones, Mike Tyson, they lose focus, which causes them to under train. Lennox Lewis should be undefeated but he had no interest in McCall or Rahman and was under prepared.

                  Mayweather has the best shot to stay undefeated because he doesn't take anyone lightly even if he knows he'll beat them, and trains like a monster.

                  Marciano was undefeated cuz unlike others, the spotlight wasn't strong enough to make him fight past his prime and he retired at the right time
                  good post, i don't see floyd losing to anybody on his way to retirement, because his work etchic is uncomparable and his mindset is sharp as a tack, he will not be defeated, guarantee you.

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                  • pbftxrs316
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    No, thats what he SAYS.. not what he thinks IMO... he says that to look good for people... look at what he says im not the best fighter ever, nobody will ever beat me.... they CANT beat me... and its that mentality that will destory him... roy and mike thought the same... and everyone else thought so too..
                    which is why floyd is floyd. he will be the one to stand out over the rest who thought and said it, his training rgiment is crazy and he trains damn near all year around. trust you me, floyd won't get beat.

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