Povetkin vs. Wlad? Give me a break!

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  • -Swizzy-
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    #31
    I would pick wlad decision simply cuz I have no idea what povetkin's chin is like and he'll need that chin with his lack of defense. If he has a good chin then he MIGHT have a chance cuz he has a good workrate for a hw. and for ppl that say he needs some more fights, he is 28 years old, he is in his prime right now so regardless of his few pro fights he has to fight wlad now cuz who else can he fight to get ready for wlad? there is no other active fighter in the world that fights like wlad so it would be a moot point for him to fight 2,3, or even 4 times to get ready for wlad.

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    • kayjay
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      #32
      I am a huge Wlad fan and I'll admit potatoes is partly right. He is not a "real fighter" in the sense Povetkin is. He is a gentleman. He does have a mean streak, but I couldn't see him winning fights against superior boxers and punchers. The problem is, for him right now there are no superior boxers or punchers. The good money is on him to destroy any of the current contenders.

      What Wlad has going for him, other than his innate gifts, is his intense preparation and condition, and his scientific approach to technique and strategy.

      One thing I'll disagree with potatoes on: why it took so long to snap the jab against Brock is that Klit uses the jab first defensively, and after he's staked out a vulnerability he uses it to punish.

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      • beez721
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        #33
        Originally posted by potatoes
        Wladimir Klitschko had a very well managed career, something every boxer would have liked to have. Sooner or later he has to face real opposition. What have we seen when he has had to overcome a bit of adversity? He tends to lose. Klitschko had four not so tough fights against opponents he should have beaten easily, yet found away to lose three of them. The only reason he didn't lose the fourth is because Sam Peter wasn't in shape. What do we see him doing in the easy fights? How about Chris Byrd for example? Klitschko decided to play huggybear, and for no apparent reason because Byrd wasn't doing anything. Why does it take forever to knockout a guy who is just standing in front of you? I can assure you Muhammad Ali or Larry Holmes would have knocked him out the first round.

        Go back a watch the tape of his fight against Brock and you will hear Jim Lampley mention that somebody must have "flipped a switch" when Klitschko finally started snapping the jab at Brock. Brock had no idea how to deal with the jab, and it was just a question of time before Klitschko knocked him out. But why did it take so long to start snapping the jab? The correct answer to that question is that Klitschko is not a real fighter. A man who doesn't like to fight is vulnerable to any man who does. Povetkin likes to fight.
        so all those international fighters wlad beat to win the gold were all garbage and all his 49 victories were against hand picked club fighters? your big time over exagerrating his weaknesses and for the record sam peter was in very good shape at a tight 243 lbs. his lightest weight in years. he got worn down by wlads strong jab and all the clinching and leaning on peter wlad was doing added to this

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        • Thread Stealer
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          #34
          I don't think his management should steer povetkin to fight wlad so soon.

          he needs more time.

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            #35
            byrd, brock and austin and brewster all fought wlad for the money, they knew they were gonna get mowed over

            byrd knew hed make a couple mill to lose his title to wlad, otherwise hed have to defend it 3-4 times against anyone else to make the same amount

            ray austin.. lol... he wouldnt make more than 100 grand fighting anyone not named klitschko

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            • STEELHEAD
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              #36
              Originally posted by kayjay
              I'm with moofo. Povetkin eraned it. He's ripped right through the division. he doesn't stand a chance, but the fights happen in the ring, not in our heads. So this has to happen.
              he's ripped threw the division??? ha ha ha.
              come on. stop it.
              even tho he doesnt have a chance against klit he would gain statis even when he looses. a win win situation for him.
              plus he'll make decent bucks.

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              • HappyBoxingFan
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                #37
                Originally posted by boxing2005
                Unless Povetkin's goal is to make a few millions and retire, he should never take the fight with Wlad. Wlad would pick him apart from the distance and KO faster than he did Brock. Povetkin's lack of defense would make it a target practice for Wlad, it would be pathetic. I'm no big fan of Wlad but it would be a waste of the fight.
                I kind of agree. Povetkin would probably look bad in losing to Wlad.

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                • Leo Pradun
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                  #38
                  You have to understand Povetkins will to fight the best I mean the guys an Olympic champion with a great amateur record and hes already 28 this the reason why he thinks now is the time to fight the best. Hes only got a few years left. The way I see it he doesnt have the power to beat Klitschko but has a good chance against everyone else

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                  • potatoes
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by kayjay
                    I am a huge Wlad fan and I'll admit potatoes is partly right. He is not a "real fighter" in the sense Povetkin is. He is a gentleman. He does have a mean streak, but I couldn't see him winning fights against superior boxers and punchers. The problem is, for him right now there are no superior boxers or punchers. The good money is on him to destroy any of the current contenders.

                    What Wlad has going for him, other than his innate gifts, is his intense preparation and condition, and his scientific approach to technique and strategy.

                    One thing I'll disagree with potatoes on: why it took so long to snap the jab against Brock is that Klit uses the jab first defensively, and after he's staked out a vulnerability he uses it to punish.


                    On paper Wladimir Klitschko would appear to be the best heavyweight in the history of boxing. Other than his brother, physically there has never been anybody like him. In terms of talent his brother is not even close. He is intelligent, well trained and very dedicated. So why do all these strange things happen when he gets in the ring?

                    One thing I have to agree with, the smart money is on Klitschko if the rest of these bums don't clean up their act. Chances are most of them won't.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by potatoes
                      On paper Wladimir Klitschko would appear to be the best heavyweight in the history of boxing. Other than his brother, physically there has never been anybody like him. In terms of talent his brother is not even close. He is intelligent, well trained and very dedicated. So why do all these strange things happen when he gets in the ring?

                      One thing I have to agree with, the smart money is on Klitschko if the rest of these bums don't clean up their act. Chances are most of them won't.
                      There's a mental shortcoming there, we as his fans have to admit. But he does have mental strength outside the ropes, and this helped him deal with the losses. He doesn't need a sense of his own invincibility to be successful, he knows he can get iced. But he also knows if he trains properly it's unlikely, because the guy across from him is never his equal in talent.

                      I think Wlad will lose again, but it's going to take a good fighter on a great night. I don't see Ibragimov, Peter, Chagaev, Povetkin, Gomez, etc., being the guy anytime soon.

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