Why does Floyd never have mandatories?

[Welter_Skelter]

Why do people always do this? It is an EXPLANATION not an OPINION. I EXPLAINED what was giong on but do I agree with it, HELL NO.


Is Floyd a fraud, HELL NO. Are you seriously telling me Marg deserves a shot at Floyd? HELL NO. Is the fighter that deserves a shot at Floyd even ranked in the WBC? HELL NO. Please find one person ranked in the WBC that is better than Ricky Hatton, take your time.

Cory Spinks unified the 147 lb title by beating Ricardo Mayorga. Zab Judah then won the 147 lb title by knocking out Cory Spinks. Judah then lost his title to Carlos Baldomir. Floyd Mayweather beat both Baldomir and Judah in 2006. He also went up to 154 to beat a still viable and significantly larger DLH and defended against linear 140 lb champion Ricky Hatton.

In that same period of time Antonio Margarito has compiled a record of 6-2. One of the losses came in Margarito's attempt to win a 154 lb belt against Daniel Santos (who couldn't beat DLH on DLH's worst day). Margarito's wins at 147 have come against Hercules Kyvelos, Sebastian Lujan, Kermit Cintron, Manuel Gomez, Josh Clottey and Golden Johnson. He also lost to Paul Williams.

Margarito's excuse for his incredibly poor competition has been that fighter have been ducking him. During this time Margarito turned down lucrative fights with Winky Wright, Vernon Forrest and was eventually shamed into fighting Paul Williams because he was made to look like a hypocrit.

Margarito lost to Williams yet he still insists that he won that fight and has earned the right to call himself the best fighter at 147. In the time that Mayweather was won 3 division titles while beating 4 fighters who've held linear titles Margarito has lost twice and beaten one belt holder. He also beat another legitimate top 10 contender in the process.

Those are facts. Now please explain to me how Floyd is the fraud and Margarito is the worhty challenger who is being run from? You can either use ring accomplishments or financial clout...

Either way, you're undertaking a losing argument.

Margarito was just an example.. and by focusing on that you kind of miss my point...

Either you admit Floyd is Fraudulently Holding the WBC title prisioner.. or you do not agree that something very dirty is going on when a beltless 140lber leapfrogs legitmate divisonal fighters..

Whether they would beat Floyd is irrelavent.. and not my Point..

My point is.. the next time someone comes on here and says Floyd is a fraud.. you cant disagree.. Or you can pretend that Ricky Hatton was fighting at 147 and EARNED his shot over The legit divisional fighters.. and disagree...

But you cannot tell me By defintion of the WBC rules that Floyd Mayweather has Fought an honest to goodness mandatory fighter in 16 months... and that disqualifies him from holding that belt... the fact that he does still hold it.. is pure corruption..

[xAUGUSTUSx]

I'll do this again. Cory Spinks unified the 147 lb. title by beating Ricardo Mayorga. Zab Judah took Spinks title by knocking him out. Baldomir took the title from Judah by decision. Then Mayweather beat both of them. Mayweather became the linear champ or "The Man Who Beat the Man."

During that time Margarito has fought 4 absolute nobodies and 4 fights of significance. In the fights of significance, Margarito has gone 2-2. Real champs win titles in the ring. Margarito has gone 2-2 against world class contenders in the last four years. How he has such widespread support is beyond me.

This is'nt about Margarito it's about Floyd. You need to find something else to talk about. Floyd should have to fight mandatories just like every other fighter. The reason it bothers me is because I'm a pro fighter that is trying to get somewhere but it ain't easy. Because of fighters like Mayweather not fighting the proper guys the sport is being held up for young deserving fighters on they're way up. I don't really care if you don't want to see him fight mandatories, it's still a mandatory plain and simple. That can't be argued with and if you find a way to argue it then your probably one of his bitches that he pays to defend him on these sites.

[javelin_fangs]

Margarito was just an example.. and by focusing on that you kind of miss my point...

Either you admit Floyd is Fraudulently Holding the WBC title prisioner.. or you do not agree that something very dirty is going on when a beltless 140lber leapfrogs legitmate divisonal fighters..

Whether they would beat Floyd is irrelavent.. and not my Point..

My point is.. the next time someone comes on here and says Floyd is a fraud.. you cant disagree.. Or you can pretend that Ricky Hatton was fighting at 147 and EARNED his shot over The legit divisional fighters.. and disagree...

But you cannot tell me By defintion of the WBC rules that Floyd Mayweather has Fought an honest to goodness mandatory fighter in 16 months... and that disqualifies him from holding that belt... the fact that he does still hold it.. is pure corruption..

The WBC is ******, belts are ******, mandatory defenses are a waste of time. You can't tell me that if Miguel Rodriguez, Jackson Osei Bonsu, Chavez Jr, Berto, Isaac Hlatshwayo or pretty much anyone ranked in the top 15 by the WBC at 147 other than Antonio Margarito were to become Floyd's mandatory and Floyd were to defend against that mandatory challenger that Margarito and his fans wouldn't use that against Floyd.

The WBC can strip Mayweather if that's their perogative and I'm sure Margarito fans who be happy because that would mean that their boy would have a much easier chance of winning a meaningless belt. But Floyd the title in the ring. Judah, Baldomir, DLH and Hatton have all held linear titles at some point in their careers. People only have a problem with Mayweather's competition because he has been winning. Lose a fight or two every couple of years and people don't care what bum of the month your promoter puts in the opposite corner. But keep the 0 in the right column and you could fight nothing but linear champions for two straight years and people will hate on your comp and demand that you be stripped of your linear title (e.g. Floyd Mayweather).

[SkillspayBills]

Margarito was just an example.. and by focusing on that you kind of miss my point...

Either you admit Floyd is Fraudulently Holding the WBC title prisioner.. or you do not agree that something very dirty is going on when a beltless 140lber leapfrogs legitmate divisonal fighters..

Whether they would beat Floyd is irrelavent.. and not my Point..

My point is.. the next time someone comes on here and says Floyd is a fraud.. you cant disagree.. Or you can pretend that Ricky Hatton was fighting at 147 and EARNED his shot over The legit divisional fighters.. and disagree...

But you cannot tell me By defintion of the WBC rules that Floyd Mayweather has Fought an honest to goodness mandatory fighter in 16 months... and that disqualifies him from holding that belt... the fact that he does still hold it.. is pure corruption..

Ricky was a p4p elite and had just scored a KO over a well known fighter (the events surrounding the KO don't really matter for this particular argument that is what went on). He DESERVED a shot against Floyd because he was an enormous name in his own right and an elite in the world of boxing, period. You single out Floyd and I single out Marg so now I don't get the point? If you call Floyd a fraud I will call you out on that bull**** because it is what it is.........bull****. If Floyd holds that title for 9 years without fighting a mandatory you shouldn't be calling him a fraud, blame the SANCTIONING BODY because they make the rules, not Mayweather.

[moin126]

The WBC is ******, belts are ******, mandatory defenses are a waste of time. You can't tell me that if Miguel Rodriguez, Jackson Osei Bonsu, Chavez Jr, Berto, Isaac Hlatshwayo or pretty much anyone ranked in the top 15 by the WBC at 147 other than Antonio Margarito were to become Floyd's mandatory and Floyd were to defend against that mandatory challenger that Margarito and his fans wouldn't use that against Floyd.

The WBC can strip Mayweather if that's their perogative and I'm sure Margarito fans who be happy because that would mean that their boy would have a much easier chance of winning a meaningless belt. But Floyd the title in the ring. Judah, Baldomir, DLH and Hatton have all held linear titles at some point in their careers. People only have a problem with Mayweather's competition because he has been winning. Lose a fight or two every couple of years and people don't care what bum of the month your promoter puts in the opposite corner. But keep the 0 in the right column and you could fight nothing but linear champions for two straight years and people will hate on your comp and demand that you be stripped of your linear title (e.g. Floyd Mayweather).

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[javelin_fangs]

This is'nt about Margarito it's about Floyd. You need to find something else to talk about. Floyd should have to fight mandatories just like every other fighter. The reason it bothers me is because I'm a pro fighter that is trying to get somewhere but it ain't easy. Because of fighters like Mayweather not fighting the proper guys the sport is being held up for young deserving fighters on they're way up. I don't really care if you don't want to see him fight mandatories, it's still a mandatory plain and simple. That can't be argued with and if you find a way to argue it then your probably one of his bitches that he pays to defend him on these sites.

No it's about Margarito. Floyd has fought nothing, but linear champions for the last two years. But you're trying to pretend like you give two ****$ about the worthless WBC's rules because Floyd has made a lot of money and your boy Margarito lost his belt.

[Welter_Skelter]

The WBC is ******, belts are ******, mandatory defenses are a waste of time. You can't tell me that if Miguel Rodriguez, Jackson Osei Bonsu, Chavez Jr, Berto, Isaac Hlatshwayo or pretty much anyone ranked in the top 15 by the WBC at 147 other than Antonio Margarito were to become Floyd's mandatory and Floyd were to defend against that mandatory challenger that Margarito and his fans wouldn't use that against Floyd.

The WBC can strip Mayweather if that's their perogative and I'm sure Margarito fans who be happy because that would mean that their boy would have a much easier chance of winning a meaningless belt. But Floyd the title in the ring. Judah, Baldomir, DLH and Hatton have all held linear titles at some point in their careers. People only have a problem with Mayweather's competition because he has been winning. Lose a fight or two every couple of years and people don't care what bum of the month your promoter puts in the opposite corner. But keep the 0 in the right column and you could fight nothing but linear champions for two straight years and people will hate on your comp and demand that you be stripped of your linear title (e.g. Floyd Mayweather).

What I care about is that we are witnessing a pure and Blatant Corruption.. and What I see is that as long as it's "your" guy who benifeits from the Corruption.. then it's allright..

Let's hope the shoe doesn't go on the other foot someday eh??

And can you please stop trying to tell me who cant beat Floyd.. It is not my Argument.. I am not debateing it.. and I dont care...

he Holds a belt he shouldn't by the rules of the belt he holds.. he does however hold it by way of corruption... If I have to say that to you ONE more time before you get the point I am trying to make.. then you will have proven yourself beyond reproach.. and a truly qualified idiot...

[javelin_fangs]

What I care about is that we are witnessing a pure and Blatant Corruption.. and What I see is that as long as it's "your" guy who benifeits from the Corruption.. then it's allright..

Let's hope the shoe doesn't go on the other foot someday eh??

And can you please stop trying to tell me who cant beat Floyd.. It is not my Argument.. I am not debateing it.. and I dont care...

he Holds a belt he shouldn't by the rules of the belt he holds.. he does however hold it by way of corruption... If I have to say that to you ONE more time before you get the point I am trying to make.. then you will have proven yourself beyond reproach.. and a truly qualified idiot...

He could get stripped of his belt and it wouldn't matter. He's still the linear welterweight champion. Back in the day, you won titles in the ring. Floyd won his titles in the ring. Now, you're trying to cop one by saying the WBC should strip him. Let them strip him. That doesn't change the fact that he holds the linear title...the ONLY title that REALLY matters.

[Welter_Skelter]

Ricky was a p4p elite and had just scored a KO over a well known fighter (the events surrounding the KO don't really matter for this particular argument that is what went on). He DESERVED a shot against Floyd because he was an enormous name in his own right and an elite in the world of boxing, period. You single out Floyd and I single out Marg so now I don't get the point? If you call Floyd a fraud I will call you out on that bull**** because it is what it is.........bull****. If Floyd holds that title for 9 years without fighting a mandatory you shouldn't be calling him a fraud, blame the SANCTIONING BODY because they make the rules, not Mayweather.

Sorry But Floyd is a Fraud as long as he goes along with it... if he is Not a fraud he does what other fighters do.. and drop their belts so they can fight who ever they choose.. or they fight who is put in front of them..
I didnt make the rules up.. I am Blaming the WBC.. but It's up to Floyd as well.. No???

[xAUGUSTUSx]

No it's about Margarito. Floyd has fought nothing, but linear champions for the last two years. But you're trying to pretend like you give two ****$ about the worthless WBC's rules because Floyd has made a lot of money and your boy Margarito lost his belt.

How is Margarito my boy? I've never said that. I don't think Margarito is that good so what the **** you talking about fool? Seriously out of all the Welters I think it's between Clotty, Cotto, Williams and maybe still Mosley that have a decent chance of beating Floyd. Floyd obviously cares about the WBC or else he would only target those belts. If he did'nt care about the belts then why does he spend almost a whole episode of 24/7 showing off his belt. Whenever there is a serious challenge then Floyd conveniently pretends to not care about belts. Truth is if the belts are so meaningless than why does Floyd hold on to his? Look at it this way if Floyd never won any belts through his career he would be nobody. again. Floyds waiting for 3rds