Why does Floyd never have mandatories?

[The Troll]

Cotto beat damaged goods, so what? That's like giving Oscar more credit for beating any opponents that Trinidad already beat on.

I dont understand what this is a response to

[Welter_Skelter]

It's all corrupt man, all of it is fishy. You can tell Suliman wants to keep that belt on Floyd for as long as he fights. Keeping the belt on Floyd is very profitable and he knows this.

So you are OK with Mayweather being Champ (now*) based on Corruption???

Meaning You Understand Floyd is a fradulent champ...??

meaning you understand the frustration of the fighters and their fans when they say Floyd is ducking them.. the Guys who have RIGHTFULLY earned a Shot at the belt .. But can't get it???????

So you WONT defend floyd the next time a Margarito boy comes on here screaming Floyd is a fraud?????

[javelin_fangs]

I think that depends on the particular circumstances of each fight and exatly which fighters are involved but just being very general a KO is the most descisive way you can win a fight.

In the Corley fight Cotto was in serious trouble and on the verge of being KO'd. It the Judah fight Cotto had to foul a couple of times just to survive. Floyd lost a combined total of 4 out of 24 rounds against Corley and Judah.

I understand what you're trying to say, but be honest with yourself. A KO is decisive in that you can't argue it the way you can a decision, but if it's not a one-sided KO and you're comparing it to a shutout decision as though it's proof that the guy who scored a KO is better...I mean WTF!?!

Are you saying that because Floyd is not a big puncher Cotto is better? Or are you just trying to prove that Cotto is a bigger puncher?

[The Troll]

In the Corley fight Cotto was in serious trouble and on the verge of being KO'd. It the Judah fight Cotto had to foul a couple of times just to survive. Floyd lost a combined total of 4 out of 24 rounds against Corley and Judah.

I understand what you're trying to say, but be honest with yourself. A KO is decisive in that you can't argue it the way you can a decision, but if it's not a one-sided KO and you're comparing it to a shutout decision as though it's proof that the guy who scored a KO is better...I mean WTF!?!

Are you saying that because Floyd is not a big puncher Cotto is better? Or are you just trying to prove that Cotto is a bigger puncher?

in those particular circumstances you'd be correct

comparing Cotto Corley to Mayweather Corley

I think Cotto's victory over Judah was more descive, actually much more descive than was Mayweather's though.

[SkillspayBills]

I dont understand what this is a response to

Oh it was directed at the person talking about Cotto' Tko'ing opponents Floyd had already beaten.

[SkillspayBills]

So you are OK with Mayweather being Champ (now*) based on Corruption???

Meaning You Understand Floyd is a fradulent champ...??

meaning you understand the frustration of the fighters and their fans when they say Floyd is ducking them.. the Guys who have RIGHTFULLY earned a Shot at the belt .. But can't get it???????

So you WONT defend floyd the next time a Margarito boy comes on here screaming Floyd is a fraud?????

Why do people always do this? It is an EXPLANATION not an OPINION. I EXPLAINED what was giong on but do I agree with it, HELL NO.


Is Floyd a fraud, HELL NO. Are you seriously telling me Marg deserves a shot at Floyd? HELL NO. Is the fighter that deserves a shot at Floyd even ranked in the WBC? HELL NO. Please find one person ranked in the WBC that is better than Ricky Hatton, take your time.

[xAUGUSTUSx]

It's not a rule of the sport that you have to fight a mandatory. The IBO doesn't enforce mandatories and that's one of the reasons why they consider themselves less corrupt than the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO.

It is a rule of the WBC that fighter defend their title against mandatories, but Suilaman is the President of the WBC. So, if he wants to make up rules and his board of directors signs off then what is anyone else going to do?

But my question is why does anyone care? So, what if he gets stripped of the WBC title? I mean Andre Berto could fight Tony Margarito for that title, but that wouldn't make the winner the champ. Floyd would still be the man who beat the man.

No he would'nt be the man. He has'nt beaten anyone that Margarito lost to and Berto has'nt lost. So what are you talking about how would he be the man that beat the man? All I'm saying is there is rules and if he is'nt going to defend them then he should give up the belt. He's holding up boxing. It's not his sport it does'nt revolve around him. You and Floyd look pretty cute together warm milk in ur face

[javelin_fangs]

So you are OK with Mayweather being Champ (now*) based on Corruption???

Meaning You Understand Floyd is fradulent champ...??

meaning you understand the frustration of the fighters and their fans when they say Floyd is ducking them.. the Guys who have RIGHTFULLY earned a Shot at the belt .. But can't get it???????

So you WONT defend floyd the next time a Margarito boy comes on here screaming Floyd is a fraud?????

Cory Spinks unified the 147 lb title by beating Ricardo Mayorga. Zab Judah then won the 147 lb title by knocking out Cory Spinks. Judah then lost his title to Carlos Baldomir. Floyd Mayweather beat both Baldomir and Judah in 2006. He also went up to 154 to beat a still viable and significantly larger DLH and defended against linear 140 lb champion Ricky Hatton.

In that same period of time Antonio Margarito has compiled a record of 6-2. One of the losses came in Margarito's attempt to win a 154 lb belt against Daniel Santos (who couldn't beat DLH on DLH's worst day). Margarito's wins at 147 have come against Hercules Kyvelos, Sebastian Lujan, Kermit Cintron, Manuel Gomez, Josh Clottey and Golden Johnson. He also lost to Paul Williams.

Margarito's excuse for his incredibly poor competition has been that fighter have been ducking him. During this time Margarito turned down lucrative fights with Winky Wright, Vernon Forrest and was eventually shamed into fighting Paul Williams because he was made to look like a hypocrit.

Margarito lost to Williams yet he still insists that he won that fight and has earned the right to call himself the best fighter at 147. In the time that Mayweather was won 3 division titles while beating 4 fighters who've held linear titles Margarito has lost twice and beaten one belt holder. He also beat another legitimate top 10 contender in the process.

Those are facts. Now please explain to me how Floyd is the fraud and Margarito is the worhty challenger who is being run from? You can either use ring accomplishments or financial clout...

Either way, you're undertaking a losing argument.

[moin126]

in those particular circumstances you'd be correct

comparing Cotto Corley to Mayweather Corley

I think Cotto's victory over Judah was more descive, actually much more descive than was Mayweather's though.

I think, cotto gave some good low blows. I think judah had a year layoff, I think judah came off a divorce. I think judah didnt want a boxing match and wanted to trade. I think judah was much more rdy for the mayweather fight.I think mayweather couldve knocked him out if it wasnt for the lowblows. I think judah gave cotto a good fight, but only won 3 rounds in the mayweather fight.

[javelin_fangs]

No he would'nt be the man. He has'nt beaten anyone that Margarito lost to and Berto has'nt lost. So what are you talking about how would he be the man that beat the man? All I'm saying is there is rules and if he is'nt going to defend them then he should give up the belt. He's holding up boxing. It's not his sport it does'nt revolve around him. You and Floyd look pretty cute together warm milk in ur face

I'll do this again. Cory Spinks unified the 147 lb. title by beating Ricardo Mayorga. Zab Judah took Spinks title by knocking him out. Baldomir took the title from Judah by decision. Then Mayweather beat both of them. Mayweather became the linear champ or "The Man Who Beat the Man."

During that time Margarito has fought 4 absolute nobodies and 4 fights of significance. In the fights of significance, Margarito has gone 2-2. Real champs win titles in the ring. Margarito has gone 2-2 against world class contenders in the last four years. How he has such widespread support is beyond me.