The Ring: "Mayweather Could Definately Lose To Cotto"

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  • machotime
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    #71
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    just having ben in the ring.. and fighting fighters with floyds type of defense and quickness... i just understand how a fighter ca nlook great against other fighters.. and when they step in the ring with someone whose slick, and quick... steps out when you step in... ducks when you throw... just quicker than you.. all the sudden that fighter looks like garbage... he doesnt know what to do... thats what happens to fighters when they get in there with floyd... they cant hit there target, he doesnt get tired... his punches get to ehir mark faster than yours do... when you do throw punches, he moves back and out of the way... you lose stamina just trying to catch him.. it mentally crushes you...

    same thing with roy... even a 39 year old roy... people now have the mindset that hes old he cant move i can go inthere and crush him... no problem at all... but when they get in the ring, and your literally standing across from him... and hes holding the right hand lead up, thats blocking your sight, and your jab... then you realize how fast his hands are... when you go to throw a punch, all the sudden you get hit.. FAST, and you didnt see it... it mentally kills you... he can hit you faster than you can hit him.. it seems like whatever you do... he neutralizes it and makes your advantage, his advantage... this is what roy and floyd do... especially floyd at this stage
    I understand your POV, but Cotto has done the same to all of his opponents. He makes them look slow, he finds them with punches more often than they have ever been found in their careers. He is also the best ring cutter in the business and therefore will find and hit PBF more often than he has ever been hit. IMO Floyd has a very good chance of beating Cotto, but the same chance exists for Cotto beating Floyd. Cotto has the BEST chance of beating Floyd in boxing today and I now understand why he continues to avoid the most competitive and credible fighter in boxing today, yet he choses to rematch a fighter that he already fought, and has not accomplished anything in over 4 years.

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    • Fox McCloud
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      #72
      Originally posted by toincito
      actually three he has too fight his mandatory before december
      Good call.

      It doesn't matter anyway, Floyd is only fighting once in 2008, if he is fighting in September.

      Hopefully March-April of 09 will bring us what we want.

      That is a long ****ing time to wait.

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      • Mozza
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        #73
        Originally posted by TopDawg
        Maybe he would like to see Floyd fight Cotto after Floyd and Oscar fight again???? Did you think of that. Oscar is dying to see PBF lose at some point.
        That does not explain why Oscar would use a magazine to try and put pressure on Floyd to fight Cotto this year if the Oscar-Floyd fight is scheduled for September.

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          #74
          Originally posted by machotime
          I understand your POV, but Cotto has done the same to all of his opponents. He makes them look slow, he finds them with punches more often than they have ever been found in their careers. He is also the best ring cutter in the business and therefore will find and hit PBF more often than he has ever been hit. IMO Floyd has a very good chance of beating Cotto, but the same chance exists for Cotto beating Floyd. Cotto has the BEST chance of beating Floyd in boxing today and I now understand why he continues to avoid the most competitive and credible fighter in boxing today, yet he choses to rematch a fighter that he already fought, and has not accomplished anything in over 4 years.
          cotto cant cut off the ring, faster than floyd can move around him...

          and floyd makes people who have a high percent connect percentage... have the worse connect percentage in there career when they fight him...

          take any advantage you think cotto has.. and floyd can do it better than him...

          floyd will defend cottos offense better than cotto can execute it

          floyd can move better than cotto can cut off the ring

          cotto will be the best fighter at a chance of beating floyd....

          that doesnt mean he will... or even come close

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            #75
            Originally posted by Mozza
            That does not explain why Oscar would use a magazine to try and put pressure on Floyd to fight Cotto this year if the Oscar-Floyd fight is scheduled for September.

            It certainly wouldn't hurt. I know Floyd is fighting Oscar first, but Oscar doesn't like FLoyd and will bash him every chance he gets. When Floyd beats Oscar in September, expect Oscar not only to push for the fight, but to somehow get involved in it promotionaly like he has for PBF's past couple of fights.

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              #76
              Mayweather has a couple of things to worry about when it comes to Miguel Cotto.

              I can't think of anyone that Floyd has fought (with the exception of Zab "4 rounds" Judah) that is as deadly accurate as Miguel Cotto is. That coupled with Cotto's power could be something that breaks and wears Floyd down slowly but surely.

              Cotto's body shot really could take Floyd out. I know Floyd hasn't had a problem with body shots in the past, but I don't think he has faced a body puncher with near as heavy of hands as Miguel Cotto.

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                #77
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                but your talkin about cotto... whose biggest crowd would be the PR's... who mostly live in jersey... who dont make a TON of cash... im not bein racist here its just the way it is... if your in vegas... you got money.. period, and ive been at the garden i dont think it can hold the crowd that mandalay bay holds
                true and most of those "puertoricans" live off welfare and rob a lot of people in NYC.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by TopDawg
                  It certainly wouldn't hurt. I know Floyd is fighting Oscar first, but Oscar doesn't like FLoyd and will bash him every chance he gets. When Floyd beats Oscar in September, expect Oscar not only to push for the fight, but to somehow get involved in it promotionaly like he has for PBF's past couple of fights.
                  Where are you getting this from that Oscar wants Floyd to lose? I'm sure De La Hoya would love to be the first man to beat Mayweather but that is merely sporting rivalry, not a personal vendetta as you seem to be suggesting.

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                  • TopDawg
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Mozza
                    Where are you getting this from that Oscar wants Floyd to lose? I'm sure De La Hoya would love to be the first man to beat Mayweather but that is merely sporting rivalry, not a personal vendetta as you seem to be suggesting.
                    Oscar was dying to see Floyd lose against Hatton, and he made that pretty clear. Floyd Sr. tells Oscar all those stories about how Floyd is a bad son and this and that and Oscar believes him. How can you think Oscar actually likes Floyd?

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                    • machotime
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      cotto cant cut off the ring, faster than floyd can move around him...

                      and floyd makes people who have a high percent connect percentage... have the worse connect percentage in there career when they fight him...

                      take any advantage you think cotto has.. and floyd can do it better than him...

                      floyd will defend cottos offense better than cotto can execute it

                      floyd can move better than cotto can cut off the ring

                      cotto will be the best fighter at a chance of beating floyd....

                      that doesnt mean he will... or even come close
                      I assume that you didnt expect Cotto to demolish and find Zab as often as he did??
                      Furthermore, its foolish to say that PBF can negate all of Cottos attributes. THats just not analytical. One can identify flaws, attributes, and abilities, but the clash of the attributes is the only thing that can determine which attributes will overcome the other's.

                      What fighter has PBF fought that has a higher connect percentage than Cotto anyway? JLC has a similar style and in my opinion and most experts, he beat Floyd.

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