Proof that Hopkins's resume at middleweight is pathetic...

[Fox McCloud]

De La Hoya didn't that much, but Trinidad did. He massacared both Mayorga and Joppy. That's really good wins to me.

Besides when you have the smaller man infront of you, you're supposed to beat them deseciviely and that's what Bernard did. Well except Winky Wright, but Winky Wright would give a lot of people problems.

Mayorga was after Hopkins.

He had one win before Hopkins at MW, and it was good, but he really did end up 3-2 at MW. Keep in mind that Mayorga really did jump almost immediately from 147 to 160, and it took how many rounds to get him out of there? Trinidad's power just started to leave him, because 160 is too high for him to really be super effective at.

[warp1432]

Or it could be that Mayorga's chin is just solid? He took like 3 1-2 combos from Forrest in a row, which I think was their second fight and it didn't even rock him. I know he was knocked out in five, but De La Hoya is a pretty good puncher.

And besides, even if Trinidad wasn't his strongest at Middleweight he was still pretty damn strong. And even then, that was after a 2 and a half year layoff from Trinidad, while at the time when Trinidad lost, he was #2 pound for pound fighter in the world and very much in his prime.

[KingTito]

hopkins was champ for a long time, a lot of defenses, that says a lot.. best ever though? no way

[phallus]

]Nino Benvenuti (82-4, 3-time world champion), [/B]Emile Griffith (70-11, 5-time world champion), Jose Napoles (75-5, 3-time world champion) and Rodrigo Valdez (57-4, 2-time world champion) were bums?
Wow dude, just because you don't know s*** about the boxers Monzon fought doesn't mean they were bums.

Monzon fought anyone, anywhere, anytime. He always fought solid opposition and beat them in their own home countries.
Also count in the fact that he was not beaten in 13 years, he only lost in his early 20's.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...9036&cat=boxer
Look at the records of the boxers he defended his titles against, you think those guys were bums?

Hagler fought some damn good opposition too, Monzon and Hagler are the top middleweights. Robinson's best work was done at WW.

this is the fight i have, monzon destroying benvenuti... i didn't know nino was a 3 time world champ, all i knew was that carlos ****ed his **** up

[Piggu]

Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest middleweight. We idolise Turpin (who was a very good fighter) for handing him a defeat, but if you analyse how many fights Robinson had had leading up to the bout and his lack of preparation, its not suprising. He destroyed Turpin in the rematch with a TKO in the tenth (Turpin did win the commonwealth LH title afterwards, but commited suicide as he could cope with the obscurity after his career)

No he wasn't. In my opinion, Narvin Hagler.

[Fox McCloud]

No he wasn't. In my opinion, Narvin Hagler.

War Narvin!

[warp1432]

Robinson was great at middle, but I wouldn't call him the best of all time.

He had great knockout wins, but he kept losing and regaining the title. Sure it was because of age, but still.

[THe TRiNiTY]

If he beats Calzaghe.... I can't wait. I'm going to laugh, so ****ing hard.

If he doesn't.. Then my prediction is right. Win-win for me.

[Piggu]

War Narvin!

Oh lol. In my imagination, Narvin Hagler is a Serbian *** who plays dodgeball.