Could Smoking Joe Beat Tyson?

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  • HappyBoxingFan
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    #11
    Originally posted by Parody
    Also the fact Frazier was 5'11 and liked to brawl. not a good sign specially when tyson only struggled with guys very tall, a prime tyson beats a prime frazier. do you guys remember how good tyson's defense was?
    Frazier had a great chin though. Tyson didn't.

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    • typeone
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      #12
      Originally posted by Parody
      Also the fact Frazier was 5'11 and liked to brawl. not a good sign specially when tyson only struggled with guys very tall, a prime tyson beats a prime frazier. do you guys remember how good tyson's defense was?
      Yea it was good until he got the trainer! then he stopped rolling the punches, You notice it in the Buster fight

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      • Parody
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        #13
        Originally posted by typeone
        Yea it was good until he got the trainer! then he stopped rolling the punches, You notice it in the Buster fight
        Yeah but in the Douglas fight he had a lot of personal problems and his sparring partners were knocking him down before the fight, His divorse problems, jail, cases, etc.

        And im talking about prime vs prime when Tyson had a good trainer and he actually was a hard worker, not until his other problems started and he fired his trainer after Cus died...

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        • TheGreatA
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          #14

          Joe Frazier HL

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          • Parody
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            #15
            Originally posted by HappyBoxingFan
            Frazier had a great chin though. Tyson didn't.
            Frazier had a good chin and Tyson didn't? Based on what? Frazier got stopped by Ali and Blasted by Foreman twice, but yeah Foreman was one of the hardest hitters but still he got stopped in the 2nd round. Tyson got stopped by Holyfield and Lewis, two guys who beat Frazier prime for prime as well. Lewis would stop him

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            • Silencers
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              #16
              Frazier would be a cruiserweight now and he'd be small for that division.

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              • Jim Jeffries
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                #17
                Originally posted by Parody
                Also the fact Frazier was 5'11 and liked to brawl. not a good sign specially when tyson only struggled with guys very tall, a prime tyson beats a prime frazier. do you guys remember how good tyson's defense was?
                Hmmm, a 30 year old Tyson struggled with a 34 year old Evander Holyfield, who I don't believe is very tall, or very big.

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                • TheGreatA
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by silencers98
                  Frazier would be a cruiserweight now and he'd be small for that division.
                  Frazier was usually 210 (225 in the Foreman rematch) and so was Mike Tyson for most of his career, about 215 in his prime.

                  Ibragimov is under 220 today, Holyfield is 210 (205 against Bowe).
                  Last edited by TheGreatA; 01-18-2008, 11:29 AM.

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                  • Silencers
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TheManchine
                    Frazier was usually 210 (225 in the Foreman rematch) and so was Mike Tyson for most of his career, about 215 in his prime.

                    Ibragimov is under 220 today, Holyfield is 210 (205 against Bowe).
                    I knew that, I think he could make Cruiserweight without much difficulty. Tyson and Frazier had different body types though.

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                    • RageX
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                      #20
                      Evander Holyfield is 6'3, Mike Tyson is 5'10, Joe Frazier is 5'10.

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