You Cant Blame Floyd!

[BmoreBrawler]

I don't think I'm using them unfairly. I think I'm just trying to get you to be consistent.

I told you, I think Floyd won clearly, and I think the rematch is ******.

I am totally consistent.

Admit he is ducking Cotto if the fight happens.

[Fox McCloud]

I am totally consistent.

Admit he is ducking Cotto if the fight happens.

The only way you are being consistent is if you don't believe that a robbery is a fair case for a rematch.

I don't think he is ducking Cotto, just taking money over legacy.

I doubt it is because of fear. Either way, it's detracting from his legacy, so it doesn't really matter.

[BmoreBrawler]

The only way you are being consistent is if you don't believe that a robbery is a fair case for a rematch.

I don't think he is ducking Cotto, just taking money over legacy.

I doubt it is because of fear. Either way, it's detracting from his legacy, so it doesn't really matter.

There are others who are saying that this rematch is justified who did not admit previously that it was a controversial fight. Admittedly, you do think its a bad match up, although you try to blunt the impact that this latest episode of cowardliness should have on members of this board's attitudes towards Floyd.

Yes, it is detracting from legacy, fair assessment. He really did whatever it took to avoid Cotto though, that much is clear.

[DLT]

I can almost guarantee you that nobody will feel ripped off watching a Cotto-Margarito fight. Would you make the same guarantee about Mayweather-DLH II?

I dont mean ripped off by watching the fight. No doubt it will be a great fight to see but my point is that theres probally a 90% chance that both of them perform in a way where the media and there fans will be calling them the best and most avoided guys in boxing. Its just like Margarito losing to Santos and then Williams but everyone still sweats him. He'll lose that same way to Cotto and will get sweated even more. Whatever happened to a guy having to win fights to get boosted? Or Cotto loses a tough war to Margarito and then everyone will go crazy over them both because Cotto showed how bad he is in the war against the tough SOB and Margarito won so that proves how great he is. Its a setup.

[Fox McCloud]

There are others who are saying that this rematch is justified who did not admit previously that it was a controversial fight. Admittedly, you do think its a bad match up, although you try to blunt the impact that this latest episode of cowardliness should have on members of this board's attitudes towards Floyd.

Yes, it is detracting from legacy, fair assessment. He really did whatever it took to avoid Cotto though, that much is clear.

So fighting for the most money automatically = fear?

Did Mosley duck Tszyu? Both he and De La Hoya were legit badass when he was at 135. De La Hoya didn't have a belt though.

Was Mosley scared of Tszyu?

[DLT]

K....are you Leonard Ellerbe or part of his team?

If you are...fair enough.

But if you're not...how about a big glass of SHUT THE **** UP.

Look, bud. I am a fight fan, not just a fighter of a certain fighter. What does this mean?

I like fighting, and i like to see the best fight the best. Purely for my own entertainment reasons.

This Oscar - Floyd fight is a ****ing fraud. Oscar hasn't been a contender for the last 4 or 5 years. He hasn't moved his way up the ranks, he hasn't fought challengers...he's a phony fraud who is still living off of his name and good looks.

I have to give Floyd because he has fought the man at pretty much every division. Minus Tszyu and maybe Casamayor/Freitas early in his career...he has pretty much fought everyone.

But this fight...from a fans point of view...is bogus. The first fight was a fix and a SPARRING MATCH. Everyone knows it. Both of these fighters didn't fight like winners. They fought pretty much exactly like they are. Millionaires who dont need to fight any more.

Guys who fight because of greed.

Oscar is the star of boxing and has earned the right to do this wether you like it or not. I love how guys always try to play Oscar like he's a chump. Thats the only thing that makes me mad about this fight. I bet he would still either beat or nearly beat anyone in that WW division besides Floyd and you know it. I wish he would fight one of them just to get people to shut up 1st about this fight. Everyone on this board was just sweating Mayorga and Oscar decpaitated him in the fight before Floyd. The Oscar who fought Floyd wouldve gave Williams, Cotto, Cintron, Clottey, and Margarito hell that night. Stop acting like he's a bum because you know he's far from that. He's the star and the money machine so he has a right to call his shots.

How can you talk bad about how Floyd fights? I think its so funny that people only remember the 2 back to back fights Floyd had with Oscar & Baldy. Thats all they remember so they rip him for the way he fights. Before those 2 fights he had 6 straight fights where he was all action. He KO 4 of them very early, dropped Chop twice, and may have stopped Zab if it wasnt for the low blow. Then after the Oscar fight he KO's Hatton. Stop dissing the way he fights. Its no coincedence that those 2 boring fights were against by far the biggest guys he ever fought while he looked like a skinny boy. Im not saying that I want to see this fight because I really dont but I completely understand it and I also think it will be way more entertaining then the 1st fight because neither guy would show the other the same respect. Oscar will definatly press him more and get very physical in this fight. Floyd was scared of the 154 pound weight and didnt know if he could handle it. Now he knows that Oscar cant really hurt him and would have no fear of him this time. Both guys would open up more

[Fox McCloud]

By the way Bmore... one thing I have noticed about you...

You seem to be all or nothing when it comes to these arguments. You can't take partial concessions... You still think I should denounce Floyd and everything he has done.

Anyways, no matter what arguments Floyd fans can come up with to justify this fight... I really don't see an argument why this fight should take precedence over Mayweather-Cotto. We all know why it is happening, but there is no way it should.

I still like Floyd, I still think he is a great fighter, and now I think that he isn't doing all he can to show that he indeed is.

To be honest, I am wondering how much of the first fight was set up...

I am seriously wondering if they had it planned out that one of the judges gave a seemingly clear victory for Mayweather to De La Hoya in order to make it look a hell of a lot closer than it was.

[Sin City]

If athletes aren't playing for their fans and fighters aren't fighting for their fans.. then who exactly are they fighting for? and just who exactly is Mayweather without his fans? They pay his checks after all..
The thread starter is a douche..

[BmoreBrawler]

So fighting for the most money automatically = fear?

Did Mosley duck Tszyu? Both he and De La Hoya were legit badass when he was at 135. De La Hoya didn't have a belt though.

Was Mosley scared of Tszyu?

Lying in order to avoid a fight = fear.

No idea about Mosley and Tszyu.

[BmoreBrawler]

By the way Bmore... one thing I have noticed about you...

You seem to be all or nothing when it comes to these arguments. You can't take partial concessions... You still think I should denounce Floyd and everything he has done.

Anyways, no matter what arguments Floyd fans can come up with to justify this fight... I really don't see an argument why this fight should take precedence over Mayweather-Cotto. We all know why it is happening, but there is no way it should.

I still like Floyd, I still think he is a great fighter, and now I think that he isn't doing all he can to show that he indeed is.

To be honest, I am wondering how much of the first fight was set up...

I am seriously wondering if they had it planned out that one of the judges gave a seemingly clear victory for Mayweather to De La Hoya in order to make it look a hell of a lot closer than it was.

I'm not all or nothing, I myself want to see the fight but can admit that it should not happen.

It really isnt a matter of partial concessions or not. What is there to concede? Either Floyd is ducking Cotto or he isnt.

I think that fight's official scoring made sense. It all depended on whether the judges thought mayweather was landing punches or not.