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  • Mr. Ryan
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    #31
    Originally posted by xcaret
    Barrera or Morales would've beaten Floyd...

    Floyd stomp them? Give me a ***ing break he couldnt stomp a 34 year old past his prime DLH...
    Now consider the size difference between Mayweather and De La Hoya, OK? How many rounds would Morales and Barrera last against De La Hoya? Not many.

    Morales and Barrera were great against opposition around their ages and sizes, but a fight with Mayweather would be completely different from anything they'd seen in the pros. Mayweather was way too fast, too powerful, and too big for either guys.

    Particularly Morales, who stood too straight up and would've been an easy target. That would've turned out like the Corrales fight. Morales needs a body in front of him to be at his best and Mayweather wouldn't be in front of him.

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    • MayweatherJr.
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      #32
      Originally posted by Blastmaster
      huh??? I'm at a loss here, how exactly was Floyd stronger than Pac. He couldn't even permanently knock down Chico. PBF knocked him how many times? 4-5 times? And not once was Chico wobbled. He even easily got up from the last knockdown and was so pissed that his team threw in the towel when he can still clearly fight. I'm sorry but that kind of showing DOES NOT compare to Pac who ACTUALLY has a One Punch-KO Power and actually scored KO wins over a guy who has never been KO'd in his illustrious career(Morales).

      And thats not a slight on Morales, that's actually a compliment on his awesome chin. Because only Pac ever did that to him, no one else. So no, SFW Floyd COULD NOT and WOULD NOT KO Morales even if his life depended on it. Floyd would have to have Pac's power to ever do that, but sadly he does not. You might argue that Floyd is faster, is more skilled, has better ring generalship, better movement than Pac. But Pac has more power than him. Please don't make PBF a God or something because he's not. He had and still has his own flaws.

      All that I wrote here also applies to the Baby-Faced Assassin. And again, I'm NOT talking about SFW EM and MAB. Im talking about FEATHERWEIGHT EM and MAB against SFW PBF.
      you're lost? let me show you the way. sfw is floyd's natural weight, meaning that's where he is at his strongest. end of story. floyd handled chico easily who outweighed him, if i'm not mistaken, 15 lbs on fight night. now, what makes you think floyd can't do the same to barrera? the barrera who tkoed by a flyweight? don't even say pac is stronger than floyd 'coz he aint even a ko artist at sfw. his best weight is 122lbs. if pac can carry his power at superwelter and ko hatton then i have no choice but to agree with you, until then watch more boxing fights

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      • Fox McCloud
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        #33
        Originally posted by Vanilla Gorilla
        El Terrible would have given Floyd fits back in his prime. A prime Morales would have given Floyd a helluva tough fight. Morales could easily fight at 140 lbs.
        Erik Morales left his prime at 122.

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        • wmute
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          #34
          PBF's last fight at 130 was in 2001.

          BOTH Morales and Barrera reached 130 later on.

          If they faced off at 130, PBF would have toyed with them or stopped them. This is not because PBF is a better fighter (which he is by the way), but rather because he was young, decently big for the weight, with speed, power, with a ring generalship rarely seen in a 21-24 years old fighter, but well testified in all of his performances. On the other hand Morales and Barrera were on the downside of their careers and would have been phisically smaller than Mayweather.

          These would not have even been tough fights.

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            #35
            Originally posted by eazy_mas
            Floyd was still too green for them.

            But he had a big chance to KO them as well with speed I think he could win by KO but if Morales and Barrera played there gameplan quit well with the young Floyd they would have won.

            remeber Morales and Barrera at SFW is not there best class weight it was there ending in there career.

            and prime vs prime it definity Floyd
            When was Floyd too green for them? Floyd was at his very best at 130. Have you guys ever seen him fight there? There is no question he has declined since then.

            Anyways, Floyd never fought at Featherweight, he started at Super Featherweight and fought there until 2001, when Morales and Barrera were still at 126, and he was at 135 and 140 by the time they fought at 130. So they never could've fought.

            Prime for prime though, at 130, he would've beaten any of them, Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Pacquiao, etc.

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            • Mickey Gomez
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              #36
              Prime or not, Mayweather beats these both of them. Split decisions maybe but a win nonetheless.

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                #37
                Originally posted by wmute
                PBF's last fight at 130 was in 2001.

                BOTH Morales and Barrera reached 130 later on.

                If they faced off at 130, PBF would have toyed with them or stopped them. This is not because PBF is a better fighter (which he is by the way), but rather because he was young, decently big for the weight, with speed, power, with a ring generalship rarely seen in a 21-24 years old fighter, but well testified in all of his performances. On the other hand Morales and Barrera were on the downside of their careers and would have been phisically smaller than Mayweather.

                These would not have even been tough fights.
                You mean someone could have cashed in big on their names?!?! Why didn't anyone else think of that? P4P #2, what?

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                • SkillspayBills
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                  Now consider the size difference between Mayweather and De La Hoya, OK? How many rounds would Morales and Barrera last against De La Hoya? Not many.

                  Morales and Barrera were great against opposition around their ages and sizes, but a fight with Mayweather would be completely different from anything they'd seen in the pros. Mayweather was way too fast, too powerful, and too big for either guys.

                  Particularly Morales, who stood too straight up and would've been an easy target. That would've turned out like the Corrales fight. Morales needs a body in front of him to be at his best and Mayweather wouldn't be in front of him.
                  Hey AS what's with you and the "fist pump" is that a signature move or something my friend?

                  Oh yeh another question have you heard of Edwin Rodriguez? They say he was National Golden Gloves champion at 165 but isn't that Danny Jacob's division?

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                  • Mr. Ryan
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by SkillspayBills
                    Hey AS what's with you and the "fist pump" is that a signature move or something my friend?

                    Oh yeh another question have you heard of Edwin Rodriguez? They say he was National Golden Gloves champion at 165 but isn't that Danny Jacob's division?
                    It's me showing the right hand, so they won't see the left coming. I hear alot of good things about Rodriguez, but haven't seen him fight yet.

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                    • eazy_mas
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                      It's me showing the right hand, so they won't see the left coming. I hear alot of good things about Rodriguez, but haven't seen him fight yet.
                      could you please write an article about the recent good amateurs. not only in USA but also worldwide.

                      I think David Estrad have a son who box for the USA national team that guy look scary,

                      Last edited by eazy_mas; 01-13-2008, 11:17 PM.

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