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  • Sweet Pea 50
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    #21
    Originally posted by xcaret
    aww.. getting hurt cause u know floyd didnt even fight the best at 130?

    What does Barrera and Morales KOs have to do with them having a chance of beating floyd?

    And who did Floyd beat at 130 besides Corrales that made him such a good champion?

    use the tissues, they come in handy.
    No tissues here, baby girl. I think both Morales and Barrera are fist ballot HOF fighters.
    But it is what it is. Neither of these guys would stand a chance at 130-135 with Mayweather. If there geting KTFO by Pac at 130, dear god, it would be an cosmic ass whoopin stepping against Mayweather.
    But **** a tissue. It sounds like you need a

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    • eazy_mas
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      #22
      As much as people want to believe that Morales and Barrera and not KOable but PAc and Junior Jones KOed Barrera with speed and abit of power.

      Pac power stayed at SFW and if he goes up he loses some but Mayweather went up into weigh yes he is not the punch of 130 but he hurt couple of people in the weighclass.

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      • El Dominicano
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        #23
        Originally posted by TopDawg
        Don't knoe Floyd was at 135 in '02. Morales and Barerra give Floyd a tough fighr, but Floyd wins by UD.
        Floyd wins by K.O his power was well respected in those weights

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          #24
          Originally posted by El Dominicano
          Floyd wins by K.O his power was well respected in those weights
          but if Morales wanted to Box he could win him because that time Mayweather was abit green for good boxer and Morales was pretty good boxer

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            #25
            Originally posted by eazy_mas
            but if Morales wanted to Box he could win him because that time Mayweather was abit green for good boxer and Morales was pretty good boxer
            You're not making much of an argument with the "Green" b.s.
            Mayweather beat, and KO'ed many a good fighter at 130-135.
            This isn't even a contest.

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              #26
              They would have been alright fights. Not great and I really don't think either would end in a KO. It's possible but unlikely. The only problem here is that neither Morales or Barrera were actually that great at this weight. There prime years were well before moving into SFW. They were of course very good but we're talking about fighting Mayweather here. If Mayweather was smaller and older I do believe Morales would have had a very, very good chance of beating him. Morales had a good chance of beating anyone in his prime, as did Barrera.

              I think Morales had the skills as well as the necessary speed and fire power to do some good work. Barrera was an animal in his prime also and his combination punching was P4P some of the greatest of the last two decades without a doubt. At times Barrera was one of the best fighters I've seen. Great all around skills and the ability to beat just about anyone with any style.

              Nonetheless, if these two fought Mayweather at SFW when he was there it would have ended in a UD decision for Mayweather, both fights.

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                #27
                Originally posted by BennyST
                They would have been alright fights. Not great and I really don't think either would end in a KO. It's possible but unlikely. The only problem here is that neither Morales or Barrera were actually that great at this weight. There prime years were well before moving into SFW. They were of course very good but we're talking about fighting Mayweather here. If Mayweather was smaller and older I do believe Morales would have had a very, very good chance of beating him. Morales had a good chance of beating anyone in his prime, as did Barrera.

                I think Morales had the skills as well as the necessary speed and fire power to do some good work. Barrera was an animal in his prime also and his combination punching was P4P some of the greatest of the last two decades without a doubt. At times Barrera was one of the best fighters I've seen. Great all around skills and the ability to beat just about anyone with any style.

                Nonetheless, if these two fought Mayweather at SFW when he was there it would have ended in a UD decision for Mayweather, both fights.
                This is a good post. But I didn't mean SFW Mayweather vs SFW Morales and Barrera. I was talking about 2000-2002 Mayweather vs 2000-2002 Morales and Barrera when Floyd was still at SFW and the 2 were already fighting at Featherweight. I was talking about that time when MAB and EM were actually in their prime and PBF was nearing his prime.

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                • MayweatherJr.
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by xcaret
                  So mayweather was a Ko artist back then? Your forgot that Morales and Barrera had great chins back in their prime... KO my ass...


                  I like how you guys are saying he would've KO'd / beat both of them but he never even fought a Freitas or a Casamayor in those times....but he kos morales and barrera..... riight.
                  i thought pacfans were the worst but after reading this post, i couldn't be any wrong. floyd beat the bests at 130. floyd destroyed chico and after that he wasn't the same. floyd retired genaro hernandez. and who the hell are morales and barrera at 130 compare to those two? if pacquiao can ko morales twice at 130 what do you think is gonna happen to morales and barrera if they fought floyd? at 130 floyd is much bigger, stronger and faster than pacquiao. only nuthuggers would think those two have a chance against floyd. i don't even think they can land a punch on him. floyd's not only fast but is so slick as well.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by MayweatherJr.
                    i thought pacfans were the worst but after reading this post, i couldn't be any wrong. floyd beat the bests at 130. floyd destroyed chico and after that he wasn't the same. floyd retired genaro hernandez. and who the hell are morales and barrera at 130 compare to those two? if pacquiao can ko morales twice at 130 what do you think is gonna happen to morales and barrera if they fought floyd? at 130 floyd is much bigger, stronger and faster than pacquiao. only nuthuggers would think those two have a chance against floyd. i don't even think they can land a punch on him. floyd's not only fast but is so slick as well.
                    huh??? I'm at a loss here, how exactly was Floyd stronger than Pac. He couldn't even permanently knock down Chico. PBF knocked him how many times? 4-5 times? And not once was Chico wobbled. He even easily got up from the last knockdown and was so pissed that his team threw in the towel when he can still clearly fight. I'm sorry but that kind of showing DOES NOT compare to Pac who ACTUALLY has a One Punch-KO Power and actually scored KO wins over a guy who has never been KO'd in his illustrious career(Morales).

                    And thats not a slight on Morales, that's actually a compliment on his awesome chin. Because only Pac ever did that to him, no one else. So no, SFW Floyd COULD NOT and WOULD NOT KO Morales even if his life depended on it. Floyd would have to have Pac's power to ever do that, but sadly he does not. You might argue that Floyd is faster, is more skilled, has better ring generalship, better movement than Pac. But Pac has more power than him. Please don't make PBF a God or something because he's not. He had and still has his own flaws.

                    All that I wrote here also applies to the Baby-Faced Assassin. And again, I'm NOT talking about SFW EM and MAB. Im talking about FEATHERWEIGHT EM and MAB against SFW PBF.

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                    • DLT
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                      #30
                      Some of you guys are crazy. This would have been a huge mismatch. I cant believe that you think that Floyd was scared of them. Some think Floyd was the greatest 130 pounder of all time. MAB or EM dont have one single advantage on Floyd. Name one. They D isnt even close, the speed isnt close e****ally at 130, and at that weight Floyd was definatly the harder puncher. Its crazy for you guys to think that Floyd wouldnt take this fight. He's scared of them but not scared of a Chico who was undefeated, Knocking out everyone like Foreman, and was coming into the ring at a 147 pounds? Get real.

                      Dougie Fischer is the biggest Floyd hater/ Pac lover there is and even he says that Floyd would KO Pac within 5 rounds at that weight. He hits harder then Pac at that weight. You have to remember that Pac is knocking out guys but there all small guys who moved up. Its not like he's knocking out the guys who were already at 130. You also have to remember that Floyd fought at 130 when there were a ton of great fighters.

                      Floyd had his last fight at 130 in November of 01. EM didnt come up to 130 until October of 03 and MAB didnt come up until November of 04. When EM had his 1st fight at 130, Floyd was having his last fight at 135. When MAB was having his 1st fight at 130, Floyd was having his 2nd to last fight at 140. They were really in different weight classes all together and no one really talked about the fights because pretty much everyone thought Floyd would kill them. Even though both MAB & EM were legends, no one was going to give them a chance to beat Floyd after the way he ran through guys like Chico, Manfredy, Chaves, and Hernandez.

                      Also, someone on here was talking about Morlaes boxing. Floyd might lose one day but it damn sure wont be because someone outboxed him. If you think EM cant win a brawl then he has no chance at all. Both of those guys were good but they were all Offense. There is no way they could beat Floyd with how bad there D was. They didnt even try to use D. Thats ok if your huge like Williams & Margarito but if your smaller then Floyd then he's going to kill you with no D

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