Who is the best"JR" of our Era?

[The Wire]

Castillo won the first fight.

Floyd showed excellent poise winning the second fight........but that's far from having a clear claim to beating someone. Yeah he beat a good version of Oscar......maybe the best we've seen in years but how good is that? lol he hasn't been the same since 2003. Hernandez? Could you have picked a more limited opponent who poses no threat to Mayweather? Judah? The same guy who was beat up by the Cab Driver from Argentina?

So let me get this straight. Roy ducked Benn and Michaelsveski yet DM flew to the States to market a fight between the two appearing at Roy's fight with Hill...............Turned around and flew home afterwards never saying a word about the prospect fight again?

And was Roy supposed to move down in weight to fight Benn? lol he was seeking titles at higher weight classes. Also it would seem strange to fly to Wales to fight a guy who sits in his backyard at 168 pounds.......in referral to Calzaghe.

You think Calzaghe was willing to fly here?

You can't seriously be telling me that, as a Roy Jones fan, you are happy with the level of opposition he has fought?

[Spirit]

Toney was dead at the weight, Hopkins wasn't half the fighter he became, Woods is OK but doesnt make you the best fighter of your era by any stretch of the imagination - he certainly isn't an elite fighter - McCallum was 40 when they fought and had just lost to Fabrize Tiozzo.

Roy had so much talent, it's gutting that he wasted it.

Floyd has beaten De La Hoya, Coralles, Castillo, Hernandez, Hatton, Judah etc etc. There really aren't many fighters that he could have fought that he didn't. Roy should have fought Calzaghe, Benn, Michalczhewski etc etc

That was Toney's own fault, you can't discredit Jones for the fact Toney didn't have the discipline to make the weight, also Toney was untouchable as the SMW champion, not many if any fighters @ 168 could've beaten Toney at that time. Hopkins was an excellent fighter at that time, if anything a better fighter, Hopkins himself claimed he changed his style to a defense one because age was catching up to him. Calzaghe was an up and comer and wouldn't leave his backyard, Warren has handpicked his fights ever since he won the title up until last year when he fought solid competition and proved he deserves to be #1. As for the other two we just had a thread about them so I don't think it's worth repeating.

P4P Floyd's great, but not comparible to Jones during the 90's

[The Wire]

That was Toney's own fault, you can't discredit Jones for the fact Toney didn't have the discipline to make the weight, also Toney was untouchable as the SMW champion, not many if any fighters @ 168 could've beaten Toney at that time. Hopkins was an excellent fighter at that time, if anything a better fighter, Hopkins himself claimed he changed his style to a defense one because age was catching up to him. Calzaghe was an up and comer and wouldn't leave his backyard, Warren has handpicked his fights ever since he won the title up until last year when he fought solid competition and proved he deserves to be #1. As for the other two we just had a thread about them so I don't think it's worth repeating.

P4P Floyd's great, but not comparible to Jones during the 90's

Whoever's fault it was it doesnt make the win any better. Toney's management basically forced the fight on him, that's why he nearly killed her afterwards. And absolutely no way was Hopkins a better fighter then than he became. And to be honest, I think Hopkins is overrated anyway but that's another argument for another thread, lol.

WHO HAS ROY FOUGHT

[Duke McKenzie]

Calzaghe was an up and comer and wouldn't leave his backyard, Warren has handpicked his fights ever since he won the title up until last year when he fought solid competition and proved he deserves to be #1.

So guys like Robin Reid were bums then?

Have you got a source for Calzaghe saying he wouldn't leave his "backyard"?

[Run]

You can't seriously be telling me that, as a Roy Jones fan, you are happy with the level of opposition he has fought?

He could have fought more star caliber fighters, sure.



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[Spirit]

So guys like Robin Reid were bums then?

Have you got a source for Calzaghe saying he wouldn't leave his "backyard"?

Well, has he?

[The Wire]

So guys like Robin Reid were bums then?

Have you got a source for Calzaghe saying he wouldn't leave his "backyard"?

That whole "Calzaghe wouldn't leave his backyard" thing is nonsense anyway, he's fought in Denmark and Germany.

[The Wire]

He could have fought more star caliber fighters, sure.

Exactly, so how can he go down as the best fighter of his era (OK I know this thread is about him being the best Jr of his era...) when Floyd has fought just about everyone he could and should have. Except Miguel.

[Run]

WHO HAS ROY FOUGHT

Right, so Floyd beat everyone right?

Oscar ----------hasn't been the same since 2003.

Hatton ---------almost stopped by Juan Urango on body punches late in the fight at 147 lbs. Showed he belongs nowhere near that weight further evidenced by him getting countered to death by Luis Collazo.

Mitchell ---------washed up, blown up, struggling with the career ending knee injury. He was by no means the same fighter at 147 that he was at 140.

Carlos Baldomir --------lmfao who? The Argentian Cab driver that beat up a finished/weathered/blown up punching bag in Gatti and a guy who folds the very minute that you hit him? Who were those impressive Argentinians he beat again? Oh wait a minute he beat Clottey right? Because Clottey was whipping his ass and decided to become sadistic with cheap tactics?

Henry Bruseles -----------Who?

Demarcus Corley ---------That's right. The guy who was floored 5 times by Miguel Cotto and does a better job cross dressing than fighting?

Castillo ----------Do we have to go over that again? lol the majority of people who know boxing...........know he won the first fight against Floyd. He pressured, out threw and out landed Floyd all night long. Only people with a bias for accurate 1 and done punching could have scored rounds for Mayweather.

Corrales -------------rest in peace but that's a horrible style made fight where 1 guy with the potential to get knocked over like a sideways rocking horse does in fact get knocked over. A tough as nails yet limited lanky slugger v.s. the classical boxer puncher. lol.

Judah ------------Yeah the same guy who folds when you hit him 1 time. Also by no means his best at 147 pounds a natural 140lber.



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[Spirit]

Whoever's fault it was it doesnt make the win any better. Toney's management basically forced the fight on him, that's why he nearly killed her afterwards. And absolutely no way was Hopkins a better fighter then than he became. And to be honest, I think Hopkins is overrated anyway but that's another argument for another thread, lol.

WHO HAS ROY FOUGHT

I think it's a matter of opinion, Hopkins used to be a more agressive but still a consistent fighter, just look at his KO percentage at the time he adopted this style. Technically I agree he's better now. Jones wanted to give Toney a rematch, but said Toney did nothing to deserve it at the time.

Let me refrase that for you, who should he have fought? Did those fighters make reasonable demands? Were those fighters exposed shortly after they called out Jones? When Jones fought Woods people were saying he should be fighting Ruiz, who he beat decisively. Jirov, who was beaten by fat Toney shortly afterwards. Hopkins, who wanted an unreasonable 50/50 split and Calzaghe who had his opponents handpicked by Warren at the time.