Lennox Lewis had a decent chin

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  • Jim Jeffries
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    #11
    Originally posted by hurricane72
    That's only speculation on your part. Tua landed left hooks cleanly on Lewis' chin and he took them as well as great punches from such hard hitters as mentioned at the top of this thread. McCall despite being a club fighter could still pack a hell of a punch which an inexperienced Lewis walked onto doubling it's power he still got up at the count of six and should have been given the chance to continue. He was in no worse condition than Larry Holmes was after getting hit by Shavers and had the fight been stopped there how many people would have said Holmes would have gone on to win. Lewis was tagged by many a great puncher and had good recuperative powers. The Rahman punch he didn't train and was past his prime but watch how many great punches Rahman hit him with in the first fight and the 2nd fight as well.

    Come back when you've watched some more fights indepth and have a bit of knowledge.
    Your excuses are astonishing. 29 years old in his 4th title defense, Lennox was "inexperienced," (anyone could see the stoppage was a good one, BTW,) then 6 1/2 years later he "didn't train" (for a world title defence) and was "past his prime."

    His chin wasn't the greatest, that much is obvious. Luckily he had the height, reach and weight advantages over most of his opponents, coupled with a great trainer, add in some waaaaaaay past their prime name opponents like Holyfield and Tyson, and presto, one of the most overrated fighters of all time.

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      #12
      Originally posted by gavinz1970
      Your excuses are astonishing. 29 years old in his 4th title defense, Lennox was "inexperienced," (anyone could see the stoppage was a good one, BTW,) then 6 1/2 years later he "didn't train" (for a world title defence) and was "past his prime."

      His chin wasn't the greatest, that much is obvious. Luckily he had the height, reach and weight advantages over most of his opponents, coupled with a great trainer, add in some waaaaaaay past their prime name opponents like Holyfield and Tyson, and presto, one of the most overrated fighters of all time.
      Not excuses and not astonishing just common sense mate. Anyone that knows anything about boxing will tell you Lennox Lewis never really became a world class fighter until after the McCall loss when he got rid of Pepe 'He's British and he's bad' Correa and started training under a real trainer like Manny Steward. Any fool can see he was good before that but clumsy and amatuerish as well, Steward turned him into a great fighter.

      His peak years were between mid 1995 and 2000, by then even in the holyfield fights he had slowed down and his stamina wasn't as good. It's a well known fact he came into the Rahman fight under trained as he was concentrating on making a film at the time, not an excuse FACT and it's his own ****** fault and he paid the price. But even past his prime he got into shape for the rematch and avenged the defeat dramatically then went on to stop a faded Tyson and a very dangerous peak Vitali Klitchko.

      Not overated but underated by many and in 20-30 years time he will be held in much higher esteem.

      I believe he would have beat any Tyson or Holyfield especially the Lewis between 1996 and 1998. Everyone slams him for those 2 defeats because who they were against but they could both hit pretty hard and one came when he wasn't quite the complete fighter and the other at the tail end of his career and he avenged them both. 2 knockdowns in a 14 year career against some of the bigest hitters ever in the heavyweight division and the strongest the division ever was with the exception of the 70's.

      In a 14 year career he reigned as champion of one organisation or another for a total of 9 years made 14 succesful defenses in total, was a 3 time champion, cleaned up the whole division and became undisputed champion and retired as champion. He beat everyone he ever faced and continued fighting past his prime while still trying to achieve the goals he set out to.

      He was avoided by Tyson and Holyfield and they only fought him when he had something they wanted. Only 2 other names were missing from his resume that's Bowe and Moorer who both avoided him like the plague.

      Lennox Lewis is one of the all-time greats and a very special fighter that doesn't come around that often.

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      • TheGreatA
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        #13

        Here's Rahman knocking out Lewis with that huge right. Lewis was laughing at him (something he does very often when he is hit, bad move) and got caught big time.


        Here's the rematch. Maybe one of the hardest punches ever thrown.

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          #14
          Lewis doesn't have a bad chin at all. He could take a decent punch but by no means was it granite. He did take some flush shots from some big punchers.

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            #15
            Originally posted by TheManchine

            Here's Rahman knocking out Lewis with that huge right. Lewis was laughing at him (something he does very often when he is hit, bad move) and got caught big time.


            Here's the rematch. Maybe one of the hardest punches ever thrown.
            He certainly paid the price for laughing and taking him lightly and what a great punch it was, but like you said in the rematch that has to be one of the hardest punches ever thrown. When it lands you can hear a big crack, Lewis was a different fighter in the rematch and it shows.

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              #16
              Everyone is human. Put enough force on another mans head and he will pass out. Whoever you are.

              Lewis had a great chin - not perfect, but great never the less.

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                #17
                Originally posted by mickeyb
                Everyone is human. Put enough force on another mans head and he will pass out. Whoever you are.

                Lewis had a great chin - not perfect, but great never the less.
                Exactly right Mickey and at 200lbs + there is a lot of force. Even Ali who isn't considered a powerful puncher if landing with the right punch could floor anyone in the right situation.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by hurricane72
                  Exactly right Mickey and at 200lbs + there is a lot of force. Even Ali who isn't considered a powerful puncher if landing with the right punch could floor anyone in the right situation.
                  Aye. It depends whether you get hit with that punch aswell.

                  Ali, i reckon, wouldn't have been clipped on the chin after undertraining and not getting used to the climate on a trip to Africa.

                  Best chin even IMO - Eubank... and he touched canvas a few times.

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                    #19
                    that Rahman punch was a bomb and the single greatest punch Rahman ever threw. That would have knocked out 95% of heavyweights. I haven't seen the McCall fight so I can't comment.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mickeyb
                      Aye. It depends whether you get hit with that punch aswell.

                      Ali, i reckon, wouldn't have been clipped on the chin after undertraining and not getting used to the climate on a trip to Africa.

                      Best chin even IMO - Eubank... and he touched canvas a few times.
                      Eubanks chin is defo one of the greatest. I was at the first Benn fight at the back of the hall and while I couldn't see all the punches clearly I certainly heard some of them land.

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