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  • #11
    Lacy got mugged by Calzaghe and injured. A bad loss like that and a bad injury soon afterwards can end a career.

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    • #12
      I think he relied a lot on making the opponant fear him, thus helping him win. When he got destroyed his lost a lot of that image.

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      • #13
        Calzaghe happened

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        • #14
          If you all think Cortez did a bad ref job in Mayweather-Hatton, Jorge Alonso's job in this one was ****ing terrible.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by robjr View Post
            lacy was prety much exposed.. he almost lost to manfredo who fought like crap..
            I whole heartedly disagree with that assessment. Jeff Lacy, WAS a very good, and very dangerous fighter.

            Judging his performance after fighting Joe Calzaghe is akin to judging Meldrick Taylors performance after fighting Julio Cesar Chavez.

            Meldrick Taylor was a brilliant fighter before Chavez. Chavez ruined him as a fighter.
            Jeff Lacy was a brilliant fighter before Joe Calzaghe. Joe Calzaghe ruined him as a fighter.

            It only takes one good beating to accumulate a career changing amount of damage. Meldrick Taylor got that kind of a beating from Julio Cesar Chavez, and Jeff Lacy got that kind of a beating from Joe Calzaghe.

            Like it or not, getting hit in the head causes brain damage. You only have one brain, and it doesn't grow back.

            When people talk about "ring age" and wear and tear on a fighter, they are talking about one thing, brain damage.

            As you accumulate more and more brain damage, your reaction times become slower, your ability to focus diminishes, your problem solving abilities diminish, and your hand-eye coordination diminishes.

            Slowed reaction times make a fighter easier to hit. Diminished focus results in a fighter missing obvious openings that they would have taken when they were "fresh". Diminished problem solving abilities result in the once intelligent ring tacticians, repeatedly trying the same tactic time and time again, failing to adapt and conquer. Diminished hand-eye coordination results in a fighter who is flat footed, and no longer steady when on his toes. His punches are less precise, and often thrown with poor technique.

            It is the difference between a fighter being "out of prime" and "shot to bits". A fighter like Pernell Whitaker, who never incurred much brain damage as a result of his career, simple slipped out of prime. He incurred the normal effects of aging, such as slowed reaction time.

            Compare that to an Evander Holyfeild. A once prolific combination puncher, a fighter that now only fights in spurts, is unable to adapt to changes in the ring, and shows considerable lapses in his defense.

            Jeff Lacy falls in the "shot to bits" category. Joe Calzaghe inflicted upon him one of the worst beatings in boxing history. Say what you want about Joe Calzaghe's power, it means nothing.

            Even a humble jab causes brain damage. Often, you can determine what a fighters weakness was after their career has ended simply by examining what signs the display.

            Irrational behavior is usually a sign of damage to the frontal lobe, indicating an inability to deal with jabs, and strait punches. Joe Louis is an example.

            Parkinson is a sign of damage to the brain stem, usually a sign of taking hooks flush on the jaw, and below the ear. Muhammad Ali is an example. This is also a reason that it is speculated that Ali vs Frazier III was a major contributing factor towards Ali's development of Parkinson's.

            Slurred speech is causes by damage to the parietal lobe, the side of the brain. This is often found in fighters who defend their chin well, but can be hit by hooks to the temple, and the side of the forehead. Meldrick Taylor, Evander Holyfeild, Thomas Hears, and James Toney (even though he rolled most of them, he still caught quite few)

            So to sum up this lengthy explanation of brain damage... Jeff Lacy suffered significant brain injury in his bout with Joe Calzaghe. This resulted in Jeff Lacy, becoming: shot, ruined, past his prime, a shell of himself, damaged goods.

            Call it what you like. Joe Calzaghe put and end to Jeff Lacy's ability to compete at a world class level.
            Last edited by Nwahs !!; 01-06-2008, 04:53 PM.

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            • #16
              Joe Calzagthe ruined him.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Nwahs !! View Post
                I whole heartedly disagree with that assessment. Jeff Lacy, WAS a very good, and very dangerous fighter.

                Judging his performance after fighting Joe Calzaghe is akin to judging Meldrick Taylors performance after fighting Julio Cesar Chavez.

                Meldrick Taylor was a brilliant fighter before Chavez. Chavez ruined him as a fighter.
                Jeff Lacy was a brilliant fighter before Joe Calzaghe. Joe Calzaghe ruined him as a fighter.

                It only takes one good beating to accumulate a career changing amount of damage. Meldrick Taylor got that kind of a beating from Julio Cesar Chavez, and Jeff Lacy got that kind of a beating from Joe Calzaghe.

                Like it or not, getting hit in the head causes brain damage. You only have one brain, and it doesn't grow back.

                When people talk about "ring age" and wear and tear on a fighter, they are talking about one thing, brain damage.

                As you accumulate more and more brain damage, your reaction times become slower, your ability to focus diminishes, your problem solving abilities diminish, and your hand-eye coordination diminishes.

                Slowed reaction times make a fighter easier to hit. Diminished focus results in a fighter missing obvious openings that they would have taken when they were "fresh". Diminished problem solving abilities result in the once intelligent ring tacticians, repeatedly trying the same tactic time and time again, failing to adapt and conquer. Diminished hand-eye coordination results in a fighter who is flat footed, and no longer steady when on his toes. His punches are less precise, and often thrown with poor technique.

                It is the difference between a fighter being "out of prime" and "shot to bits". A fighter like Pernell Whitaker, who never incurred much brain damage as a result of his career, simple slipped out of prime. He incurred the normal effects of aging, such as slowed reaction time.

                Compare that to an Evander Holyfeild. A once prolific combination puncher, a fighter that now only fights in spurts, is unable to adapt to changes in the ring, and shows considerable lapses in his defense.

                Jeff Lacy falls in the "shot to bits" category. Joe Calzaghe inflicted upon him one of the worst beatings in boxing history. Say what you want about Joe Calzaghe's power, it means nothing.

                Even a humble jab causes brain damage. Often, you can determine what a fighters weakness was after their career has ended simply by examining what signs the display.

                Irrational behavior is usually a sign of damage to the frontal lobe, indicating an inability to deal with jabs, and strait punches. Joe Louis is an example.

                Parkinson is a sign of damage to the brain stem, usually a sign of taking hooks flush on the jaw, and below the ear. Muhammad Ali is an example. This is also a reason that it is speculated that Ali vs Frazier III was a major contributing factor towards Ali's development of Parkinson's.

                Slurred speech is causes by damage to the parietal lobe, the side of the brain. This is often found in fighters who defend their chin well, but can be hit by hooks to the temple, and the side of the forehead. Meldrick Taylor, Evander Holyfeild, Thomas Hears, and James Toney (even though he rolled most of them, he still caught quite few)

                So to sum up this lengthy explanation of brain damage... Jeff Lacy suffered significant brain injury in his bout with Joe Calzaghe. This resulted in Jeff Lacy, becoming: shot, ruined, past his prime, a shell of himself, damaged goods.

                Call it what you like. Joe Calzaghe put and end to Jeff Lacy's ability to compete at a world class level.
                For most of us, we're quite lucky man People like robjrr,kswizzy99 and nmuburner22 aren't quite as privelaged.

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                • #18
                  Joe Calzaghe exposed Lacy. Jeff Lacy has won his last 2 fights & he only has 1 loss to a great fighter like Joe. I'm not going to write him off completely just yet.

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                  • #19
                    calzaghe beat the confidence out of him.
                    Jeff simply has no confidence to rush in and keep attacking, he fears loosing and its taken the edge of off him. Along with the shoulder injury and massive amounts of muscle added he simply looks finished.
                    His performance against manfredo was a joke, he looked flat footed, slow, inaccurate and most importantly was unwilling to throw combos of punches and actually attempt to hit manfredo with more than one punch at a time.
                    I hope lacy can recover but it looks bleak.
                    if he is to comeback and be a force to be reckoned with then he has to slim down and loose some muscle, fight some bums who he can knock unconsious, and switch trainers to some one who'll make him learn more and choose better opponents to fight.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Ryno113 View Post
                      I like him i really do, i hope he can come back I think physically he's fine he just broken mentally. Manfredo is worse than Reid but lacy just wouldn't throw but when he did land manfredo felt it.

                      Manfredo fought that fight scared. You can tell he was afraid of Lacy's intimadating size and strength. His pitter patt punches were doing nothing and all Lacy had to do was apply pressure, put his punches together and back him up. He could have gotten rid of Manfredo by the middle rounds or even after that first knockdown when he had Manfredo rattled.

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