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No. Now answer my question, Why would you say Floyd was scared of Hatton at 140? You know thats bull**** and you said it like it was true. Did you even remember that Hatton turned down the fight at 140 several of times. Its cool not to like Floyd but damn homie dont make **** up about him because it make you look foolish. Thats all I'm saying. You're entitled to your opinion but dont go making **** up because you hate a fighter.
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so first the cotto is not big of a draw excuse and now hes not on floyds lvl excuse?
paul williams is the guy that doesnt draw sure hes big and tall and probably the hardest opponent for floyd but when has floyd fought the hardest
opponents?
but ill settle for p will as untested as he might be
so if mayweather doesnt fight cotto or pwill by 2008 will u admit hes scared of losing his 0?Comment
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i dont thimnk Mayweather is SCARED of Cotto. He may understand that he could possibly be a threat to his health, but that would be only if he could catch him. I dont blame Mayweather for taking time off and if its to let Cotto marinate and raise his stock, there is no problem there. I think Cotto should take a fight with anyone decent name just to get his name out there a little more.Comment
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well half the forum picked hatton cuz their brits or they just hate mayweather blindly
and i still havent seen a boxing expert that picked hatton to win
and the money excuse its just lame cotto mayweather on ppv will do as much as hatton mayweatherand i agree that cotto has more chance than hatton he at least is a welterweight[/QUOTE]
I can respect that you don't like PBF and want him to lose that is fine. But comments like the bold is just utterly retarted. You need to take a step back and think. There is a reason why Cotto only fights in the MSG and always on the day before the PR day parade. That is because Cotto is not popular among casual fans at all. New York besides Miami probably has the biggest PR population in America. Of course Cotto would sell out MSG on that day. Tell Cotto to go to Vegas and sell out the Thomas and Mack center or the MGM Grand and then you can say Cotto is a bonafide draw and has drawing power. Another reason Cotto won't or Arum won't let Cotto fight in Vegas is because he would be required to wear 10 ounce gloves in New York he can wear 8 ounce gloves. So that leads to the question is Cotto as big a puncher as we are lead to believe.
This **** is all about money and right now Cotto would probably bring PBF the most money but right now its not enough money for PBF. Who am I to say what amount of money is right for PBF or Cotto or any boxer or working person in this world.[/QUOTE]
EXACTLY RIGHT... i was in madison square garden for the cotto mosley fight.. and PR's were going nuts when cotto came out.... but only because it was the day before the parade and it was IN NY... like he said... to the casual fan, who the hell is cotto.... my grandmother knows who de la hoya is.... and the entire country of england knows ricky hatton..... not 3% of america knows cotto...Comment
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I can respect that you don't like PBF and want him to lose that is fine. But comments like the bold is just utterly retarted. You need to take a step back and think. There is a reason why Cotto only fights in the MSG and always on the day before the PR day parade. That is because Cotto is not popular among casual fans at all. New York besides Miami probably has the biggest PR population in America. Of course Cotto would sell out MSG on that day. Tell Cotto to go to Vegas and sell out the Thomas and Mack center or the MGM Grand and then you can say Cotto is a bonafide draw and has drawing power. Another reason Cotto won't or Arum won't let Cotto fight in Vegas is because he would be required to wear 10 ounce gloves in New York he can wear 8 ounce gloves. So that leads to the question is Cotto as big a puncher as we are lead to believe.
This **** is all about money and right now Cotto would probably bring PBF the most money but right now its not enough money for PBF. Who am I to say what amount of money is right for PBF or Cotto or any boxer or working person in this world.[/QUOTE]
EXACTLY RIGHT... i was in madison square garden for the cotto mosley fight.. and PR's were going nuts when cotto came out.... but only because it was the day before the parade and it was IN NY... like he said... to the casual fan, who the hell is cotto.... my grandmother knows who de la hoya is.... and the entire country of england knows ricky hatton..... not 3% of america knows cotto...[/QUOTE]
whatever u got me on that one i thought that welterweight was currently the most popular division on boxing and the most popular fight at welter would be cotto vs floyd if that doesnt make enough money well..... i find it hard to believe but ill take your word hatton is a bigger drawComment
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at the notion of mayweather being scared of hatton @ 140
neither guy was scared of the other. as ray leonard put it:
"I'm scared that they might not pay me enough".
Ray Hatton explained why it took so long to materialize.
Super fight a long time coming according to Hatton's father
August 2, 2007
Ricky Hatton and Floyd Mayweather have been planning their Las Vegas super-fight on December 8 for the past 18 months, Hatton's father Ray admitted Thursday.
Contracts were finally signed Wednesday for the welterweight showdown between the two unbeaten stars which will yield a combined purse of almost $35 million.
But Ray Hatton revealed officials from both camps had been locked in negotiations since shortly after Ricky Hatton defeated Carlos Maussa in Sheffield in 2005.
"We've been talking to people from Mayweather's camp for 18 months," Ray Hatton told talkSPORT. "We've had dialogue going back as far as that. We've had conversations, 'let's be careful who the lads fight, try and keep them unbeaten, let's try and make it over 80 fights' which is a bit of a record for two unbeaten fighters to get in the ring. But it isn't that easy in boxing.
"As it was, coming up to the Castillo fight and the Oscar De La Hoya fight the conversations did take on a new turn because it was a matter of if Floyd could beat a living legend in Oscar and if Ricky could 'do' Castillo, then the fight got even closer."Comment
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i said two seperate things... one is if floyd doesnt fight cotto its because of money...
then i commented that IF THEY DID FIGHT, how cotto isnt on floyds level... 2 seperate things... and neither one is an excuse, there reasons..
and if floyd doesnt fight in 2008 not me or anyone else on this forum who is reasonable will admit floyd is scared of anyone... he does need a break... hes getting bored with boxing.. and when you get bored, you get beat... floyd is smart, and he knows that.... he needs to WANT to get back into it... he doesnt have it right now... it doesnt excite him anymore... its why hes looking to mma... which in personal opinion is a HORRIBLE IDEA.... but regardless... its because hes bored... when your bored, you dont train like you used too, u dont focus like you used too.. and he knows he needs to have motivation to keep fighting like he does.... taking time off is the smartest thing for his career to continue without a hitch.... but not taking too much time off... too much time would be bad... but a year would be great for him.. and his hands.Comment
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castillo was top competition, fought him twice, corrales was top competition and unbeaten, baldomir was the welterweight champ with a granite chin who could hurt anyone... floyd fought him too... zab was a serious threat to anyone with his speed and explosive power... he fought him... hatton was a serious theat with his pressure style nd undefeated record as well... oscar was serious competition for the fact that floyd is sort of a blown up welterweight and fighting jnr middleweight with power and a fast jab ..the list goes on... top competition is nothing more than personal opinion on who poses a threat... to some its this guy, to others its someone else
floyd isnt ducking anyone out of fear... boxing is a business... and floyd is banking the most ching for a reason... hes smartLast edited by THE REED; 01-04-2008, 01:02 PM.Comment
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