Will Wladimir Klitchko unify or get exposed

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  • ScrewasideMMA
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    #41
    Originally posted by Scott9945
    I just happen to like the picture. It isn't any kind of a statement by me. But I guess it's all about the avatar and not what you know. Good that you're sticking up for your buddy though. That's real sweet.
    Basically sweet and my buddy got nothing to do with, when you wrong you wrong. I'm not no net gangsta but if you really wanna get personal pm me and we can figure something out.

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    • TheGreatA
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      #42
      Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
      Or how would Frazier do against Sanders?
      Are you comparing Frazier to Sanders? Why is it, is it because of his size?

      Frazier has beaten people bigger than Sanders and would most probably handle him because Sanders doesn't take pressure very well.

      If you want to say Foreman beat Frazier and he is comparable to Sanders, I would answer: "Frazier was underprepared against Foreman, he had just accomplished the thing he wanted most and was heavier than ever before against Foreman. Frazier didn't take Foreman seriously."

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      • Banderivets
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        #43
        Originally posted by beez721
        . wald virchis is another big time dangerous guy for wald,,but Im not sure he'd be able to so much as lay a glove on wlad as he's pretty damn slow. he can hurt you with so much as a slap though. he has some heavy hands
        Whats good is that Wlad Virchis always talks about his lack of skill and says that he fights "like a farmer", and is working on improving his skills, technique and all...

        he had no stability trainer wise, only now he seems to have found a guy he is going to stick with.

        He mentions that he had no success as an amature also.

        Hes just a tough motha****a with a locomotive driving his right hand.

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        • BrooklynBomber
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          #44
          Originally posted by TheManchine
          Are you comparing Frazier to Sanders? Why is it, is it because of his size?

          Frazier has beaten people bigger than Sanders and would most probably handle him because Sanders doesn't take pressure very well.

          If you want to say Foreman beat Frazier and he is comparable to Sanders, I would answer: "Frazier was underprepared against Foreman, he had just accomplished the thing he wanted most and was heavier than ever before against Foreman. Frazier didn't take Foreman seriously."
          Frazier would get knocked out in the first three. He would try to pressure Sanders and will catch a few of these sneaky lefts. Then he is as good as done.

          Frazier's style(swarming pressure) is exactly the worst type of style against someone like Sanders, who was admited by Vitaly to be the biggest puncher he faced.

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          • TheGreatA
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            #45
            Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
            Frazier would get knocked out in the first three. He would try to pressure Sanders and will catch a few of these sneaky lefts. Then he is as good as done.

            Frazier's style(swarming pressure) is exactly the worst type of style against someone like Sanders, who was admited by Vitaly to be the biggest puncher he faced.
            And why would you think Frazier's style is the worst against Sanders? It's because Frazier lost to Foreman who is a puncher like Sanders (though Sanders isn't nearly as powerful or tough or good but comparable).

            What people were saying was that Sanders was always a bad match-up for Klitschko. Then you see these Klitschko fans storming out and saying 'Wladimir was underprepared for that fight' and stuff like that.

            I could use the same excuse for Frazier, because he was underprepared for Foreman and he was. Frazier went 5 rounds against Foreman and actually kept the fight close until being stopped when he was totally past it and blind.

            I wouldn't be too sure about Sanders beating Frazier because even though Sanders is a puncher, he wasn't able to knock out Rahman who is known for having a less than stellar chin and Sanders caught Rahman with MANY clean shots in that fight. Let's not only focus on Frazier's weaknesses and forget completely about Sanders'.

            Frazier, prepared and ready, could take out Sanders. A bad styles match-up doesn't mean you are automatically going to lose, Frazier fought dangerous punchers before and won, just none as dangerous as Foreman.

            But the Sanders against Wlad is a tough fight for everyone because he was unknown and dangerous. If you don't take him seriously you might see your lights go out like Wlad did.

            Wlad, with his suspect jaw and the fact that he does, at times, fold under the pressure would always have trouble with that Sanders.

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              #46
              Originally posted by TheManchine
              Schmeling was a former world champion who beat many of the division's top contenders. He could be ranked among the top HW's of all time (not near top 10 or even top 20 though), Sanders not so much.

              The only reason Sanders was ever a champ was because of Wlad. He was a boxer who barely trained for his fights and didn't really care about boxing, just brawling with his handspeed and power.
              but he did happen to come into this fight in the best shape of his life. 225 lbs. now if he came into that kind of shape in all his fights he would have had a hell of a career

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              • TheGreatA
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                #47
                Originally posted by beez721
                but he did happen to come into this fight in the best shape of his life. 225 lbs. now if he came into that kind of shape in all his fights he would have had a hell of a career
                I agree, he was inconsistent and that's why I brought up that he was only a part-time fighter really. If Wlad's loss against Sanders can be excused because he was 'underprepared' shouldn't Sanders be for his losses as well?

                In that case Vitali's win against Sanders wasn't worth anything. But that's not how it goes, you have to be objective.

                Being underprepared is not an excuse nor a reason.

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                  #48
                  Yes I'm a Wlad fan but I still believe that Wlad came into that fight looking like he just came back from a sex marathon to collect a paycheck and got knocked straight hte **** out. And Im glad it happend, it was a good reality check.

                  I bet he didnt even watch the tapes.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by hurricane72
                    No doubting his ability and power but I just ain't convinced he is the real deal. I think he'll get exposed before he unifies all the belts.
                    He'll unify. his only weakness is his chin. I can't imagine anyone beating him by decision, and none of the current champions have what it takes to ko him.

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                    • TheGreatA
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                      #50
                      I hope he never comes to a fight like that again because his career could've been ruined right there. I have lots of respect for Wladimir for even coming back after that loss to box and now he has become the number one ranked HW in the world.

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