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  • -Swizzy-
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    #21
    Originally posted by RightHandLead
    Kelly Pavlik at #4? Paul Williams on the list- for beating Margarito, right? I guess that win is better than Calzaghe's Kessler and Lacy victories combined.. And I'm the jackass?

    Moron *****.
    pavlik's victory over taylor by ko, is a huge accomplishment considering hopkins, wright and spinks didn't pull that off. and also considering taylor is better than calzaghe and kessler. Its like hatton, if he didn't choose to fight mayweather, he might have gone 55-0, and ppl would've made arguments for him to be p4p #1 and better than mayweather. But this is the beauty of boxing, you get to discuss these things like no other sport. and sometimes you get proven wrong.

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    • Scott9945
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      #22
      Originally posted by kswizzy99
      Floyd Mayweather
      Manny Pacquiao
      Juan Manuel Marquez
      Israel Vazquez
      Kelly Pavlik
      Bernard Hopkins
      Juan Diaz
      Miguel Cotto
      Rafael Marquez
      Paul Williams
      I'd love to see a list of Williams and Pavliks top 5 wins compared to Kessler and Calzaghe's.

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      • Nwahs !!
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        #23
        Originally posted by kswizzy99
        you really take records that seriously? there are are atleast 100 active fighters with better recrods than hopkins. Does that mean they are all better? Answer no, cuz its not the records, its the oposition that counts. If hopkins fought in Denmark or England all his life, He would be 53-0 instead of 48-4-1.
        Irony at its best.

        You my friend see fit to deny what your eyes tell you. Watch Kessler fight. Watch Joe fight, can you honestly say they are average?

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        • Ironside
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          #24
          Originally posted by kswizzy99
          pavlik's victory over taylor by ko, is a huge accomplishment considering hopkins, wright and spinks didn't pull that off. and also considering taylor is better than calzaghe and kessler. Its like hatton, if he didn't choose to fight mayweather, he might have gone 55-0, and ppl would've made arguments for him to be p4p #1 and better than mayweather. But this is the beauty of boxing, you get to discuss these things like no other sport. and sometimes you get proven wrong.
          You say that as if it were a fact. You said you saw 10 fights of Calzaghe, and yet you have Williams P4P. I honestly don't believe you saw 10 fights of him.

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          • Nwahs !!
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            #25
            Originally posted by Ironside
            You say that as if it were a fact. You said you saw 10 fights of Calzaghe, and yet you have Williams P4P. I honestly don't believe you saw 10 fights of him.
            I dont believe it is possible to see 10 of Joe's fights without becoming a both a fan, and a believer.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Nwahs !!
              I dont believe it is possible to see 10 of Joe's fights without becoming a both a fan, and a believer.
              Very true!

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              • Jim Jeffries
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                #27
                Originally posted by kswizzy99
                Floyd Mayweather
                Manny Pacquiao
                Juan Manuel Marquez
                Israel Vazquez
                Kelly Pavlik
                Bernard Hopkins
                Juan Diaz
                Miguel Cotto
                Rafael Marquez
                Paul Williams
                Paul Williams' biggest win is against Margarito, and he hasn't even defended his first world title yet. 20 wins ago Joe beat Chris Eubank, who was a bigger name than Margarito. Lacy and Kessler are bigger names than anyone else on Williams' resume.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by kswizzy99
                  pavlik's victory over taylor by ko, is a huge accomplishment considering hopkins, wright and spinks didn't pull that off. and also considering taylor is better than calzaghe and kessler. Its like hatton, if he didn't choose to fight mayweather, he might have gone 55-0, and ppl would've made arguments for him to be p4p #1 and better than mayweather. But this is the beauty of boxing, you get to discuss these things like no other sport. and sometimes you get proven wrong.
                  Cory Spinks' last KO-2001

                  Winky Wright's last KO-1999

                  Yeah, amazing that they didn't KO Jermain Taylor.

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                  • Jim Jeffries
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Scott9945
                    Cory Spinks' last KO-2001

                    Winky Wright's last KO-1999

                    Yeah, amazing that they didn't KO Jermain Taylor.
                    Don't forget Hopkins has one KO in his last 8 fights, over a much smaller DLH.

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                    • -Swizzy-
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Winkyftw!
                      Get your biased fourth grade level mind the **** out of here.
                      Kessler is not barely an above average fighter. You're talking about a guy who took out Mundine in Australlia, and demolished an above average fighter in Andrade.

                      His resume wasn;t amazing, but his demoltion of Kessler solidifed his greatness. He is one of the fastest fighters p4p, he has a very good defense, and his akward style will piss off anyone he fights.

                      Before you say something so obvioulsy ignorant, mabe watch some of his fights. Even more so watch some of Kesslers, you obviously dont know boxing if you think he is barely above average.
                      biased? I don't have favoritisms when it comes to opinions. and I don't hate calzaghe and I'm not black. so I don't know where your biased thing is coming from. and I do know boxing, you are the one who doesn't know boxing. I've watched thousand apon thousands of boxing matchs since I was 11 years old. I know boxing inside out and I know talent just from watching 3-4 rounds of one fighter. its not rocket science, its boxing.
                      Last edited by -Swizzy-; 01-06-2008, 03:53 AM.

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