pavlik's victory over taylor by ko, is a huge accomplishment considering hopkins, wright and spinks didn't pull that off. and also considering taylor is better than calzaghe and kessler. Its like hatton, if he didn't choose to fight mayweather, he might have gone 55-0, and ppl would've made arguments for him to be p4p #1 and better than mayweather. But this is the beauty of boxing, you get to discuss these things like no other sport. and sometimes you get proven wrong.
Calzaghe is overrated
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Irony at its best.you really take records that seriously? there are are atleast 100 active fighters with better recrods than hopkins. Does that mean they are all better? Answer no, cuz its not the records, its the oposition that counts. If hopkins fought in Denmark or England all his life, He would be 53-0 instead of 48-4-1.
You my friend see fit to deny what your eyes tell you. Watch Kessler fight. Watch Joe fight, can you honestly say they are average?Comment
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You say that as if it were a fact. You said you saw 10 fights of Calzaghe, and yet you have Williams P4P. I honestly don't believe you saw 10 fights of him.pavlik's victory over taylor by ko, is a huge accomplishment considering hopkins, wright and spinks didn't pull that off. and also considering taylor is better than calzaghe and kessler. Its like hatton, if he didn't choose to fight mayweather, he might have gone 55-0, and ppl would've made arguments for him to be p4p #1 and better than mayweather. But this is the beauty of boxing, you get to discuss these things like no other sport. and sometimes you get proven wrong.Comment
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Paul Williams' biggest win is against Margarito, and he hasn't even defended his first world title yet. 20 wins ago Joe beat Chris Eubank, who was a bigger name than Margarito. Lacy and Kessler are bigger names than anyone else on Williams' resume.Comment
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Cory Spinks' last KO-2001pavlik's victory over taylor by ko, is a huge accomplishment considering hopkins, wright and spinks didn't pull that off. and also considering taylor is better than calzaghe and kessler. Its like hatton, if he didn't choose to fight mayweather, he might have gone 55-0, and ppl would've made arguments for him to be p4p #1 and better than mayweather. But this is the beauty of boxing, you get to discuss these things like no other sport. and sometimes you get proven wrong.
Winky Wright's last KO-1999
Yeah, amazing that they didn't KO Jermain Taylor.
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biased? I don't have favoritisms when it comes to opinions. and I don't hate calzaghe and I'm not black. so I don't know where your biased thing is coming from. and I do know boxing, you are the one who doesn't know boxing. I've watched thousand apon thousands of boxing matchs since I was 11 years old. I know boxing inside out and I know talent just from watching 3-4 rounds of one fighter. its not rocket science, its boxing.Get your biased fourth grade level mind the **** out of here.
Kessler is not barely an above average fighter. You're talking about a guy who took out Mundine in Australlia, and demolished an above average fighter in Andrade.
His resume wasn;t amazing, but his demoltion of Kessler solidifed his greatness. He is one of the fastest fighters p4p, he has a very good defense, and his akward style will piss off anyone he fights.
Before you say something so obvioulsy ignorant, mabe watch some of his fights. Even more so watch some of Kesslers, you obviously dont know boxing if you think he is barely above average.Last edited by -Swizzy-; 01-06-2008, 03:53 AM.Comment

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