Calzaghe is overrated

[-Swizzy-]

oh and btw, this is not a hate thread. I don't hate calzaghe. I just don't think he is a top 10 p4p fighter.

[oldgringo]

you really take records that seriously? there are are atleast 100 active fighters with better recrods than hopkins. Does that mean they are all better? Answer no, cuz its not the records, its the oposition that counts. If hopkins fought in Denmark or England all his life, He would be 53-0 instead of 48-4-1.

He's slightly above average, yet he managed to beat virtually every notable super middleweight in the division (rather one sidedly at that) in addition to unifying two world titles.

Kessler is a good opponent. Calzaghe is rated as he should be. He is the best super middleweight in the world and he is one of the very best fighters in any weight division.

[Scott9945]

name 5 of calzaghe's best oponents and 5 of kessler's best oponents. oh and, title defense doesn't mean anything, its who you are defending the title against that means something.

If I take the time to list their names, you'll just dismiss them as nobodies or foreigners you haven't heard of. Just stick to the basics:

1) Calzaghe has never lost in a long career.

2) If you (objectively) watched him fight you should have to have him high in any P4P list.

[Ironside]

If I take the time to list their names, you'll just dismiss them as nobodies or foreigners you haven't heard of. Just stick to the basics:

1) Calzaghe has never lost in a long career.

2) If you (objectively) watched him fight you should have to have him high in any P4P list.

Agreed, I honestly don't think he saw more than 1 or 2 matches of either Calzaghe or Kessler.

[-Swizzy-]

Let's see your top 10... jackass.

Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquiao
Juan Manuel Marquez
Israel Vazquez
Kelly Pavlik
Bernard Hopkins
Juan Diaz
Miguel Cotto
Rafael Marquez
Paul Williams

[Winkyftw!]

Calzaghe is way overrated. He has yet to beat an elite boxer. How is he rated in the top 2 or 3 p4p? What has he done? I mean if he is so good, why hasn't he fought a great fighter. Kessler is the best he's fought and Kessler is barely an above average boxer. I'm not saying that Calzaghe is bad, but one of the best p4p? I don't think he belongs in the top 10 even. If he gets into the ring with Hopkins, Pavlik, Taylor, or Wright and beats either one of them, than he belongs, otherwise, he is way too overrated.

Get your biased fourth grade level mind the **** out of here.
Kessler is not barely an above average fighter. You're talking about a guy who took out Mundine in Australlia, and demolished an above average fighter in Andrade.

His resume wasn;t amazing, but his demoltion of Kessler solidifed his greatness. He is one of the fastest fighters p4p, he has a very good defense, and his akward style will piss off anyone he fights.

Before you say something so obvioulsy ignorant, mabe watch some of his fights. Even more so watch some of Kesslers, you obviously dont know boxing if you think he is barely above average.

[RightHandLead]

Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquiao
Juan Manuel Marquez
Israel Vazquez
Kelly Pavlik
Bernard Hopkins
Juan Diaz
Miguel Cotto
Rafael Marquez
Paul Williams

Kelly Pavlik at #4? Paul Williams on the list- for beating Margarito, right? I guess that win is better than Calzaghe's Kessler and Lacy victories combined.. And I'm the jackass?

Moron *****.

[-Swizzy-]

Agreed, I honestly don't think he saw more than 1 or 2 matches of either Calzaghe or Kessler.

I've seen over 10 matchs of calzaghe and 2 matches of kessler. and I wasn't impressed. Calzaghe is a very active fighter, but that doesn't mean much especially if he fought a guy like hopkins who could counter punch and would probably get a ko even though thats not his specialty.

[Mike_Dee]

Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquiao
Juan Manuel Marquez
Israel Vazquez
Kelly Pavlik
Bernard Hopkins
Juan Diaz
Miguel Cotto
Rafael Marquez
Paul Williams

look how this guy purposely left out Joe Calzaghe. lol, you fail

[Winkyftw!]

I've seen over 10 matchs of calzaghe and 2 matches of kessler. and I wasn't impressed. Calzaghe is a very active fighter, but that doesn't mean much especially if he fought a guy like hopkins who could counter punch and would probably get a ko even though thats not his specialty.

Hah, Calzaghe sets things up with the jab, and has good patience. He isn't wild, and his upper body movement is awesome.

It shows you've only seen two kessler fights, because he is a damn god fighter.