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  • robjr
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    #21
    Roy is way past prime but still hardest fight for each of these guys... he will have a pot shot victory against bernard.. but Calzaghe I believe would be a great fight!

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      #22
      If this fight happens, I'll be rooting for Roy but Calzaghe will probably spank that ass at this point of Roy career.

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        #23
        Originally posted by crillz
        Trinidad is still very young compared to Jones and the way Hanshaw was connecting was a bit bothersome to me because I thought he wasn't going to see Roy, I thought Hanshaw for the most part is tough but nowhere near Roy's level but when I saw him successfully landing good punches I started to worry and think to myself imagine if that was Trinidad? imagine if Trinidad was able to wail away the way Hanshaw was doing to Roy on them ropes, Roy has speed but I notice that it now manifests in spurts, he throws punches pretty quick but his overall speed is severely flawed when you consider the Roy of old, I'm not saying Roy can't win I'm just saying Trinidad has just as much of a chance if he lets his hands loose.. personally I pick Trinidad, I wont say how because truth be told it doesn't matter I just feel like at the end of the night Trinidad will have his hand raised in victory.
        i disagree... trinidad had serious power at 147.. just like floyd did at 130... roy wobbled a 240 pound heavyweight....

        trinidad wont have that power at 170.. and 2 1/2 years of ring rust on top of it... roys fought twice in the last year

        its not roy getting hit by trinidad you should be worried about... its trinidad getting hit with straight right hands to titos open defense that u should be worried about

        hanshaw was no bum, he wasnt... hes not a known fighter.. but in amaturs he beat Sechew Powell, Kelly Pavlik and Sergio Mora but lost to Jermain Taylor in the amateurs... hanshaw can fight...

        and altho roy did get hit a FEW times... it was only bothersome to you because he NEVER got hit before... and although he gets hit a little more often... hes STILL evasive... its STILL hard to get to him... especially with his style.. the way he holds that right hand lead up blocking your jab... he does subtle things that people dont notice what it does til you get in front of him.. winky shut him down in his prime..... im not worried

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          #24
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          i disagree... trinidad had serious power at 147.. just like floyd did at 130... roy wobbled a 240 pound heavyweight....

          trinidad wont have that power at 170.. and 2 1/2 years of ring rust on top of it... roys fought twice in the last year

          its not roy getting hit by trinidad you should be worried about... its trinidad getting hit with straight right hands to titos open defense that u should be worried about

          hanshaw was no bum, he wasnt... hes not a known fighter.. but in amaturs he beat Sechew Powell, Kelly Pavlik and Sergio Mora but lost to Jermain Taylor in the amateurs... hanshaw can fight...

          and altho roy did get hit a FEW times... it was only bothersome to you because he NEVER got hit before... and although he gets hit a little more often... hes STILL evasive... its STILL hard to get to him... especially with his style.. the way he holds that right hand lead up blocking your jab... he does subtle things that people dont notice what it does til you get in front of him.. winky shut him down in his prime..... im not worried
          i agree 100%. Trinidad will be blown up in weight and will not even have the same power that he had at middleweight. This is what makes Roy such a smart buisness man, he makes Tito move up in weight in order to fight him so he will have all of the advantages. Roy actuall has all of the advantages besides age, but that wont matter. Tito is flat footed and it will be hard for him to catch Roy clean.

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            #25
            the only thing with what u said is.. roy doesnt have ALL the advantages... even roy said it himself... he said the tito camp is smart... because altho there fighting at light heavyweight... the contract states roy cant weigh over 170... roy hasnt been 170 since 1996... and they saw what happened what roy had to drop weight... only problem is there ******ed and think losing 25 lbs of muscle is equal to losing 5 pounds.. considering roy JUST fought in july and the fight was announced in august... he kept his weight down... the weight wont effect him... with titos camp is hoping its going to help them...

            it is a 39 yr old roy getting down to a weight he hasnt been to in 11 yrs.... but if you ask me... its gonna help him... i think hes gonna feel lighter.. and look lighter

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              #26
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              i think if you really observe whats going on in the hanshaw fight... roy dictated everything that happened... you could tell.. when he was on the ropes... its cuz he wanted to be on the ropes... then all the sudden hed just walk off the ropes and walk hanshaw down... i was at the fight down in biloxi... i thought roy completely and utterly controlled everything... BUT i agree it didnt look like 28 yr old roy either.... so yes... at the current time.. id have to give bernard the slight edge... but roy still has hand speed.. and that makes anyone nervous about opening up, cuz u can get hit in an instant.. still!!!!!!

              did u guys know that hanshaw beat Sechew Powell, Kelly Pavlik and Sergio Mora but lost to Jermain Taylor in the amateurs...

              he wasnt a bum
              I agree. Oh and, love the signature picture. did you make that yourself?

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                #27
                I really hope they fight in Wales, I will get to see 2 of the best fighters ever in their last fights ever

                Anyone else think they could fill the Millenium Stadium for that too? 70 odd thousand?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by kswizzy99
                  I agree. Oh and, love the signature picture. did you make that yourself?
                  yes i did.. thanks man

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    i think if you really observe whats going on in the hanshaw fight... roy dictated everything that happened... you could tell.. when he was on the ropes... its cuz he wanted to be on the ropes... then all the sudden hed just walk off the ropes and walk hanshaw down... i was at the fight down in biloxi... i thought roy completely and utterly controlled everything... BUT i agree it didnt look like 28 yr old roy either.... so yes... at the current time.. id have to give bernard the slight edge... but roy still has hand speed.. and that makes anyone nervous about opening up, cuz u can get hit in an instant.. still!!!!!!

                    did u guys know that hanshaw beat Sechew Powell, Kelly Pavlik and Sergio Mora but lost to Jermain Taylor in the amateurs...

                    he wasnt a bum
                    Hanshaw was solid, but the amatuers are the amatuers.

                    On a side note, I always hear about so and so losing to Taylor in the amatuers. He must have been a beast.

                    That's Sturm, Pavlik, Hanshaw, Mora....I know I'm missing others.

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                    • slicksouthpaw16
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      the only thing with what u said is.. roy doesnt have ALL the advantages... even roy said it himself... he said the tito camp is smart... because altho there fighting at light heavyweight... the contract states roy cant weigh over 170... roy hasnt been 170 since 1996... and they saw what happened what roy had to drop weight... only problem is there ******ed and think losing 25 lbs of muscle is equal to losing 5 pounds.. considering roy JUST fought in july and the fight was announced in august... he kept his weight down... the weight wont effect him... with titos camp is hoping its going to help them...

                      it is a 39 yr old roy getting down to a weight he hasnt been to in 11 yrs.... but if you ask me... its gonna help him... i think hes gonna feel lighter.. and look lighter
                      But still, Roy is the natrually bigger man, he has more bulk and muscle to him than Tito has. I dont see any advantage that Tito has besides age.

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