Prime Mike Tyson vs Todays Heavyweights

[TheGreatA]

When has Tyson ever beaten a guy like Wlad or Vitali? Let alone a guy as big.

Bonecrusher Smith was 6'4, Tony Tucker was 6'5, Carl Williams was 6'4, Ruddock was 6'3. Tyson beat a lot of big guy's but none were really as good as Lewis. Wlad? I'm not sure, Tucker and Ruddock were comparable. Maybe not as good.

Misread the question a bit.

Vitali is tall but doesn't have a great reach, Wlad is a bit shorter but has a longer reach. I think Vitali would be harder for Tyson but we never saw enough of him because of his injuries.

[Scott9945]

When has Tyson ever beaten a guy like Wlad or Vitali? Let alone a guy as big.

Tony Tucker (6'5, 221) would be the closest top opponent in size. While Tucker had a better chin than Wlad, Klitschko's offensive skills are on a whole different level.

[Jim Jeffries]

Bonecrusher Smith was 6'4, Tony Tucker was 6'5, Carl Williams was 6'4, Ruddock was 6'3. Tyson beat a lot of big guy's but none were really as good as Lewis. Wlad? I'm not sure, Tucker and Ruddock were comparable. Maybe not as good.

Misread the question a bit.

Vitali is tall but doesn't have a great reach, Wlad is a bit shorter but has a longer reach. I think Vitali would be harder for Tyson but we never saw enough of him because of his injuries.

Carl Williams, 218 lbs
Ruddock, 228 lbs
Tony Tucker, 221 lbs
Smith, 34 years old, 19-5, 233 lbs


Wlad 6'6 1/2, 246 vs Ray Austin
Vitali 6'7 1/2, 250 vs Danny Williams and Kirk Johnson.

[RichCCFC]

People overrated Tyson and underrate Klitschko and I believe that is down to the fact Tyson fought the likes of Holyfield etc and sadly I believe it's also down to race.


Tyson vs W.Klitschko - Could go either way, Vitali would beat Tyson, Wlad though I'm not sure.
Tyson vs Ibragimov - Tyson always comes out strong, KO 2-3.
Tyson vs Chagaev - Tyson would out slug 'White Tyson' and win within 4.
Tyson vs Peter - Tyson KO 4-5.
Tyson vs Thompson - Tyson KO 4-5.
Tyson vs Brock -Tyson KO 5
Tyson vs Valev - Ha ha, I would pay to watch that stare down let alone the fight. Could Tyson even hit Valeuv's jaw without jumping? Tyson TKO 8-9.
Tyson vs Povetkin - Povetkin is too green, Tyson wins by KO.
Tyson vs Virchris - Tyson KO 5.

[MELLY-MEL...]

Well Mike Tyson was 37-0 when he Fought Buster Douglas.. and still in his "prime"

He had 29 KO's within 4 rounds
4 more by the 7th

and 4 descions against
James Tills-31-8-0
Mitch Green-16-1-1
James Smith-19-5-0
Tony Tucker-35-0-0

So we can conclude.. That he would KO you early... Or You had a chance..

Now those 4 guys who decisioned him.. WHO are they?? Jouneymmen? Those are Jouneymen Records in a somewhat weak ERA.. as weak as Today's I would say.. I dont know about the Other 2 .. But James Smith was like a Jameel McCline with a Chin.. and nothing more..
Tony Tucker.. was on Par with Calvin Brock

Douglas.. LOL he was a what?? He fought Nobody.. and even lost to the Guys that Tyson Couldn't KO.. Like Tony Tucker..

I think You see my point.. Tyson was a Killing Machine.. But Not unbeatable.. and Might not do as well today if peaking as some suggest..

He did lose almost every "BIG" fight of his life..

very good post. tyson did NOT carry his power very well late, or his stamina for that matter! Tyson was great, but is far over hyped, and would lose to many of the top atg heavies!

[WLAD OWNS]

2007 Wladimir Klitschko picks the mentally weak Tyson apart...Wlad by KO

[MELLY-MEL...]

How would the 1986-88 version of Mike Tyson do with Today's Heavyweight champions/contenders?

My predictions:

Tyson vs W.Klitschko - Tyson by TKO 8th Round
Tyson vs Ibragimov - Tyson by KO 6th Round
Tyson vs Chagaev - Tyson by UD
Tyson vs Peter - Tyson by TKO 11th Round
Tyson vs Thompson - Tyson by TKO 9th Round
Tyson vs Brock - Tyson by KO 6th Round
Tyson vs Valev - Tyson by UD
Tyson vs Povetkin - Tyson by UD
Tyson vs Virchris - Tyson by UD

Your predictions? I'm talking about the Prime version of Tyson the one who was knocking out everyone left, right, centre. the one who knocked out spinks and stopped holmes.

If wlad gets past the 4th round he wins!

[slicksouthpaw16]

How would the 1986-88 version of Mike Tyson do with Today's Heavyweight champions/contenders?

My predictions:

Tyson vs W.Klitschko - Tyson by TKO 8th Round
Tyson vs Ibragimov - Tyson by KO 6th Round
Tyson vs Chagaev - Tyson by UD
Tyson vs Peter - Tyson by TKO 11th Round
Tyson vs Thompson - Tyson by TKO 9th Round
Tyson vs Brock - Tyson by KO 6th Round
Tyson vs Valev - Tyson by UD
Tyson vs Povetkin - Tyson by UD
Tyson vs Virchris - Tyson by UD

Your predictions? I'm talking about the Prime version of Tyson the one who was knocking out everyone left, right, centre. the one who knocked out spinks and stopped holmes.

Tyson was a good fighter in his prime but he did not have the heart to be in a long tough fight so if any of these fighters could make it past the 5th or 6th round and fight him back, they would have a chance. I dont see Tyson beating Peter because he is too tough, can take his shots, and has a chance at stopping him late. Tysons people did a good job at avoiding the dangerous power punchers unless they were mandatories and he had to fight them. I think that Tyson would be ahead on the cards until he mentally broke down and Peter stopped him late. Prime Tyson ducked Ray Mercer and old George Foreman. and i already said that Wladimir would beat Tyson in the other thread. But to me its just laughable when people say that Tyson knocks everybody out when they do not think about his insucurity and heart.

[Jim Jeffries]

Tony Tucker (6'5, 221) would be the closest top opponent in size. While Tucker had a better chin than Wlad, Klitschko's offensive skills are on a whole different level.

Tony Tucker's record when he fought Tyson was impressive, 35-0, and he was a world champ. However, if you look at the record of some of the guys Tony fought
0-15-0
0-5-1
0-3-0
2-5-0
3-17-0
9-26-0
11-31-2
13-25-2
13-30-2
9-9-2 (7 losses in a row, 5 by KO/TKO, in Tony's 33rd fight !!)
7-8-0
14-14-0
0-0-0 3 of them
etc

Tony won a vacant belt by beating a decent clubfighter named Buster Douglas and lost the belt in his first defence against Mike. He failed in his next 3 attempts at a title, one a 2nd rd TKO loss to Herbie Hide. Let's not act like Tony Tucker was more than he was.

[TheGreatA]

Carl Williams, 218 lbs
Ruddock, 228 lbs
Tony Tucker, 221 lbs
Smith, 34 years old, 19-5, 233 lbs


Wlad 6'6 1/2, 246 vs Ray Austin
Vitali 6'7 1/2, 250 vs Danny Williams and Kirk Johnson.

Ruddock was 240 for the rematch. Tyson fought a lot of very heavy guys too but they weren't world class.
I don't think weight helps against Tyson as the Ruddock rematch showed.

The Klitschko's are huge but I'm not going to pick someone against Tyson simply because of that.

Vitali has a good combination of speed, size, power and toughness to trouble Tyson but he never beat a world class guy either and the lesser opposition he did beat isn't comparable to the boxer's Tyson beat. His injuries and his tendency to cut always troubled him.

Wlad has an even better combination of speed, size and power (less height, longer reach, probably faster and stronger) but lacks the toughness Vitali had. IMO Wlad has beaten the better competition but has also lost to much worse competition than Vitali because of his suspect chin.
It's hard to say if Wlad could outbox Tyson without getting hit right now because he hasn't even ended his career yet. If he doesn't get caught like he did when he was younger anymore we may have a man that could beat Tyson.
But he could get knocked out in his next fight and people's opinions would change very quickly.