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  • bishop2006
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    #21
    Originally posted by divad
    a win is a win is a win

    He beat Hopkins with one hand EASILY & Dominated one of the best p4p fighters at the time Toney

    when Calzaghe retires his achievment of dominating Kessler will only grow with what Kessler goes onto achieve then what we gonna say oh Kessler aint the same fighter then as he is now
    If a win is a win,then why talk about DLH's age? are we forgetting,that Floyd moved up to Light Middle,DLH was in the best shape ive seen him in in years,Floyd looked very small compared to him,and weighed in as a welterweight on the night,DLH weighed in like a middleweight,and Floyd won,with the smaller gloves,and the smaller ring,and a pro DLH crowed

    If DLH was old and past his prime ( which i dont think is true yet ) Then Hopkins wasnt in his prime,and still learning the game,if a win is a win,its a great win for Floyd moving up

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    • big paulie
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      #22
      Originally posted by divad
      Because both fighters records leave a lot to be disired when u consider the high regard they are held in ,its just a sign of the times these days where u can aquire p4p status then sit back pick who u wanna fight & avoid the best & still retire with ATG status although u havent achieved what you are capable of

      i wish we had a p4p champs that wanted to show everybody how truly great they are instead of having to play fantasy match up when they have retired
      leave alot to be desired?? fm beat a very dangerous champion in genaro hernandez a year after turning pro, dominated and handed coralles his first loss, got a rough night against castillo then went straight back in with him and dominated, ko'd chavez, jesus man you already know all this so what do you want him to do, walk on water? make it rain fish? jones fought some very questionable opponents and reggie johnson and mike mccallum were past there best but you dont need me to tell you who he beat. i like to use sugar boy malinga as an example of common opponent a very awkward boxer who many thought was unlucky not to get the nod over eubank, and beat nigel benn. sugar boy got ko'd early in jones's career

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      • Jim Jeffries
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        #23
        Originally posted by big paulie
        leave alot to be desired?? fm beat a very dangerous champion in genaro hernandez a year after turning pro, dominated and handed coralles his first loss, got a rough night against castillo then went straight back in with him and dominated, ko'd chavez, jesus man you already know all this so what do you want him to do, walk on water? make it rain fish? jones fought some very questionable opponents and reggie johnson and mike mccallum were past there best but you dont need me to tell you who he beat. i like to use sugar boy malinga as an example of common opponent a very awkward boxer who many thought was unlucky not to get the nod over eubank, and beat nigel benn. sugar boy got ko'd early in jones's career
        He fought Hernandez two years after turning pro, and Genaro quit on his stool, just as he had done against DLH 3 years earlier. Corrales was a good win, but Diego also lost 3 fights in a row, to 3 different people, while still in his 20's. Chavez won 2 recently vacated belts and lost them on his first defence of each.

        Floyd has had a very good career, but he puts himself above people like SRR, SRL and Ali. Compared to those people his resume isn't all that impressive.

        To the guy that thinks DLH was in his prime, he was 34, had 1 fight in over 2 1/2 years, arguably lost 3 of his last 4. And if you go back and look at his first fight with Mosley, the speed and sharpness difference is substantial.

        No one is saying Floyd is a bum, but still has a way to go to live up to his potential and to even be mentioned in the same sentence as guys like SRR, Armstrong, Pep, SRL, Ali, Duran, etc.

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        • wmute
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          #24
          Originally posted by gavinz1970
          He fought Hernandez two years after turning pro, and Genaro quit on his stool, just as he had done against DLH 3 years earlier. Corrales was a good win, but Diego also lost 3 fights in a row, to 3 different people, while still in his 20's. Chavez won 2 recently vacated belts and lost them on his first defence of each.

          Floyd has had a very good career, but he puts himself above people like SRR, SRL and Ali. Compared to those people his resume isn't all that impressive.

          To the guy that thinks DLH was in his prime, he was 34, had 1 fight in over 2 1/2 years, arguably lost 3 of his last 4. And if you go back and look at his first fight with Mosley, the speed and sharpness difference is substantial.

          No one is saying Floyd is a bum, but still has a way to go to live up to his potential and to even be mentioned in the same sentence as guys like SRR, Armstrong, Pep, SRL, Ali, Duran, etc.
          Chicanito quit against Oscar because he had a broken nose, so no "just as" there. And Oscar had Chicanito move up to 135.

          When Chico fought Floyd he was unbeaten, p4p ranked and at a weight where he only lost twice: to Floyd and to Casabecause of the cuts inside his mouth.

          Leonard never gave rematches, Mayweather had 1 close fight and there was a rematch immediately. When Leonard had a controversial victory he retired.

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          • K-Nan
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            #25
            Roy, easily.

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            • Haterfree
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              #26
              RJJ & PBFM havent left anything to be desired in their careers. They have both beaten HOF fighters. Both medaled in the olympics & both have won world titles in several divisions. RJ was the 1st man in 100 years to win a legit middleweight & heavyweight title. Floyd was the 1st man to win titles in 5 divisions while staying undefeated. Some haters wont be happy until both of them are walknig around shaking & cant talk for themselves.

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              • TheGreatA
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                #27
                They both have good resumes. If PBF keeps going who knows he might end up having the better one. Or maybe he will end up like Roy.

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                • Run
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                  #28
                  All a matter of perception.

                  I certainly don't think guys like Eric Harding and Clinton Woods are anywhere near being slouches. Roy made them look as such.



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                  • pbf456
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                    #29
                    I think they are fairly even, but since even wasn't a choice I leaned in favor of Roy Jones. His victory over James Toney was something that always sticks out in my mind regardless of all the excuses about weight.

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                    • TheGreatA
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by pbf456
                      I think they are fairly even, but since even wasn't a choice I leaned in favor of Roy Jones. His victory over James Toney was something that always sticks out in my mind regardless of all the excuses about weight.
                      The fact that Toney lost to Montell Griffin in his next fight did take something out of that victory though.

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