Lennox Lewis not a HW Top 10 ATG?

[Mike Tyson77]

Lewis was a great champ.

[slicksouthpaw16]

wlad vitali both the ****ing same anyway i jus call them both wlad lol there exactly the same anyway so u shud get my drift it was lennox's last fight.

LOL at you calling them both Wlad. i see what you are saying though.

[slicksouthpaw16]

You didn't see Oceans 11?

Oh i heard about it but i didn't see it. i heard that Wlad and Lennox was about to fight and then the lights cut off or something like that.

[mrpain81]

Lennox is top ten for me, and I dont see to many fighters beating him when he was on.

[Benny Leonard]

The biggest knock on Leis' resume is the fact that the biggest names on his resume were shells of their former selves. Not saying that he wasn't good- but the biggest names he beat can be misleading.

Soooooo, where does that leave us with Marciano?
He really shouldn't be counted as a Heavyweight since he was 185 pounds and never fought one decent fighter over 200 pounds, unless you count a shot Joe Louis.

His notable wins, Ezzard Charles, a past prime fighter, who lost many times before, including being knocked out more than once, who started at MW, and was known as a LH. Archie Moore, 42 years old, known as a LH, lost many times before, including being knocked out more than once. Walcott, according to Bert Sugar, was known as a "journeyman" until he won the title, who lost many times before including being knocked out+.



And how about Dempsey avoiding Black fighters?

Or how about Tyson burning out before facing Holyfield and Lewis, let alone Buster. It's not Lewis's fault Tyson decided to call it a career after Spinks, start partying, not training, and from what rumors there are, highly medicated for the Buster fight...that cannot be Lewis's fault.

[K-Nan]

Soooooo, where does that leave us with Marciano?
He really shouldn't be counted as a Heavyweight since he was 185 pounds and never fought one decent fighter over 200 pounds, unless you count a shot Joe Louis.

His notable wins, Ezzard Charles, a past prime fighter, who lost many times before, including being knocked out more than once, who started at MW, and was known as a LH. Archie Moore, 42 years old, known as a LH, lost many times before, including being knocked out more than once. Walcott, according to Bert Sugar, was known as a "journeyman" until he won the title, who lost many times before including being knocked out+.



And how about Dempsey avoiding Black fighters?

Or how about Tyson burning out before facing Holyfield and Lewis, let alone Buster. It's not Lewis's fault Tyson decided to call it a career after Spinks, start partying, not training, and from what rumors there are, highly medicated for the Buster fight...that cannot be Lewis's fault.

Refer to post #25 for all questions.

[TheGreatA]

i dont put Tyson on the list because he was overrated, didn't accomplish alot and didn't go to the olympics. i base my list on what the fighters accomplished and not hype. Tyson has never beaten a great fighter that was in thier prime.

Good list, not sure if I would call Tyson just hype but it's true his accomplishments are not comparable with the best heavyweights of all time.

I guess you could make a case for guys like Tunney, Norton, Baer, Charles, Patterson, maybe even Quarry, Walcott, Lyle and Bowe to be ranked ahead of Tyson or if we go even further Sullivan, Langford, Wills and J. Jeffries.

I'm not too sure if I would rank any of those ahead of him though.
Tyson is somewhere there in the top 15. His spot depending on how you like to rank fighters.

[Benny Leonard]

Refer to post #25 for all questions.

Post #25 I know it wasn't his fault- it's just my two cents. You don't agree?

I'd still have him in the top 10.

Cool, didn't see it.

[MELLY-MEL...]

lewis is a top 10 hw of all time!

[slicksouthpaw16]

Good list, not sure if I would call Tyson just hype but it's true his accomplishments are not comparable with the best heavyweights of all time.

I guess you could make a case for guys like Tunney, Norton, Baer, Charles, Patterson, maybe even Quarry, Walcott, Lyle and Bowe to be ranked ahead of Tyson or if we go even further Sullivan, Langford, Wills and J. Jeffries.

I'm not too sure if I would rank any of those ahead of him though.
Tyson is somewhere there in the top 15.

i agree. whats your list?