Is boxing the only sport where....

[MrZeus]

Like I said, tell me any player in history that has not entered Wimbledon or US Open that was ranked #1 in the world, otherwise your argument doesn't hold much purpose.

Please.........read the damn posts. I never said it happens, all i said is there is plenty of SCOPE for it to happen. So the purpose of the post is to say Tennis is no different to boxing in terms of the opportunity to be ranked #1 without neccesarily beating the best day in day out.

[MrZeus]

Ah, he is wrong. The top players go after each other constantly, not just because they want to face the best, some do, some don't, but that is where the money is, plus there is a little bonus of getting better playing better players. Nadal might not like to face Roger, which he jokingly said he doesn't in the Finals, but he will because that is where the money is, that is where the #1 spot is and it will make him stay on top of his game.

Hey man.....don't take that dudes account of what i said. He's completely misrepresenting what i said.

[Ironside]

Please.........read the damn posts. I never said it happens, all i said is there is plenty of SCOPE for it to happen. So the purpose of the post is to say Tennis is no different to boxing in terms of the opportunity to be ranked #1 without neccesarily beating the best day in day out.

Oh so you're basically saying it COULD happen, but it never does.

[MrZeus]

Oh so you're basically saying it COULD happen, but it never does.

Exactly.......................

But this is down to the positive attitude of tennis pros, rather than inherent differences if the structures of both sports which the OP tried to claim.

[nmuburner22]

Division 1 college football.

[deevel79]

Exactly.......................

But this is down to the positive attitude of tennis pros, rather than inherent differences if the structures of both sports which the OP tried to claim.

When it comes down to it, it DOES and HAS happened in boxing. I have yet to see it happen in as sport such as tennis.

[MrZeus]

When it comes down to it, it DOES and HAS happened in boxing. I have yet to see it happen in as sport such as tennis.

So what......i've already said why it doesn't happen in tennis and it's cos of the players not the sport like you tried to claim.

If your beef is just with the fact it happens then you should have rewritten your OP

[deevel79]

So what......i've already said why it doesn't happen in tennis and it's cos of the players not the sport like you tried to claim.

If your beef is just with the fact it happens then you should have rewritten your OP

In boxing it also happens because of the "fighter" How many times has a champ payed a mandatory "step aside money" in order to fight someone else?

[MrZeus]

In boxing it also happens because of the "fighter" How many times has a champ payed a mandatory "step aside money" in order to fight someone else?

That's exactly what i'm saying....it's down to the individual not the sport.
It looks like you're agreeing with me.

[Double]

I agree that your question is slanted. Being called the best in any sport has to do with relative achievement. Randy Moss can be called the best wide receiver in football even if he's never matched up with the best corner- and even if, during one game, a defender shuts him out- he just comes back the next game and cleans up and once again is considered the man.

You can be the best pitcher in baseball, if you strike out almost everyone or allow very few earned runs - and yet theoretically it's more than possible to never pitch against the best hitter. Sure, people would mention that fact but few would detract from calling that person the best pitcher.

Boxing is a brutal sport. If you lose it can be by being knocked out; by being battered into a bloody pulp. If T.O. has a **** game he comes back out the next and proves he still has it. If an MLB pitcher allows a homer he is credited with his overall game.

Boxing is a different sport. It's man against man. Most sports; basketball,football, baseball, soccer.....they're team sports. Even those that are one on one like tennis aren't the same level of physicality. Boxers have to chose their career path carefully; one loss can spell the end of your career.

So, even in boxing, we consider "the best" to be based on overall accomplishments. I've never known a case where the pound for pound champion was beaten decisively and the fighter that won didn't find himself among the sports elite. All he had to do was cement his position in his next few fights and he most likely would be top dog himself.

Roger is the best in Tennis. Floyd is the best under 147, since there is still room to prove he is the best at 47 and 54 if he goes that high. At 154, he only needs Forrest and I can call him the best there. At 47, a little more, Cotto and Williams.

Floyd is still the best P4P.

It's more difficult in boxing than Tennis. Tennis is hard, but there is more of a balance, unlike boxing where if you move up, size matters, which is why we have divisions and the fantasy of P4P status.

It's hard to compare team sport to individual sports. It may be a better comparison if you compare The Patriots to Wlad Kiltschko. You can determine the best in team sports by their records. the best often face the best in team sports.