Could Taylor beat this Hopkins?

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  • Kball15
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    #11
    Originally posted by Zerwas1
    He already had a beauty of right hand. How was Hopkins amateur background?
    i dont think hopkins had an amatuer backround, or much of one. he learned to box in jail

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    • msagrain
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      #12
      Originally posted by Sweet Pete
      Based on his performance in that matchup? Or based on the fact that you looked at Hopkins record and assumed he was just young and green?

      I've seen plenty of young Taylor prior to facing Hopkins, and he rarely looked that impressive. And Taylor around the time he faced Hopkins was easily better than the Taylor we've seen of late, with Steward as his trainer.
      how more develpoed is taylor to that hopkins? loads and way more experienced

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      • Zerwas1
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        #13
        Originally posted by Kball15
        i dont think hopkins had an amatuer backround, or much of one. he learned to box in jail
        Heard that, too, but some people say he had around 90 fights as an amateur

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        • kayjay
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          #14
          Originally posted by msagrain
          todays taylor would beat that hopkins within 4 rounds
          It wouldn't take that long.

          He looked good for a guy with a few fights, but c'mon.

          Asian step your game up

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          • THe TRiNiTY
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            #15
            That was, essentially a young, under-prepared Hopkins in his 5th pro fight.

            I doubt Taylor beats that Hopkins. Sometimes you gotta ignore the opponent and what he offers, and concern yourself with what the fighter in question is offering.

            To gavinz, who hates Hopkins. I don't think anyone is saying Jones doesn't deserve credit for the win. He was just closer to his complete prime and still had trouble with a guy who hadn't come close to COMPLETELY peaking yet. It's not to take away from Jones, it's to just give both fighters credit for a close fight.

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            • TyrantT316
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              #16
              Funny how guys like Hopkins and Mayweather were considered power punchers when they first entered the pro ranks

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              • Addison
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                #17
                Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                Nice, that's when Hopkins was wanting more than anything to be Mike Tyson. I remember that. He was mini-Mike, or at least trying to be..

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                • warp1432
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Zerwas1
                  He already had a beauty of right hand. How was Hopkins amateur background?
                  He didn't have any I don't think. He started boxing when he got out of jail.

                  And to be honest, I don't like the early style of hopkins to be honest. He was just so sloppy. The hopkins who fought Echols and Trinidad in that range when he was both agressive and a ring genius is my favorite type.

                  Taylor would beat that Hopkins because Hopkins didn't have the experience back then.

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                  • Sweet Pete
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by msagrain
                    how more develpoed is taylor to that hopkins? loads and way more experienced
                    Based on what I've seen of Taylor, he never showed a skill level like that. Hopkins showed perfect fundamentals, crisp, compact combos, good defense with bobbing and weaving skills, and great finishing skills.

                    Regardless of his opponent, you can Hopkins skills by simply watching him, not his opponent. Taylor never showed me any of that even when facing similar low level comp.

                    He is a lot more experienced in the pro ring yes, but there are other kinds of experience, such as prison boxing for years. And experience is not always that big a deal when you are outclassed on talent.

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                    • Sweet Pete
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by warp1432
                      He didn't have any I don't think. He started boxing when he got out of jail.

                      And to be honest, I don't like the early style of hopkins to be honest. He was just so sloppy. The hopkins who fought Echols and Trinidad in that range when he was both agressive and a ring genius is my favorite type.

                      Taylor would beat that Hopkins because Hopkins didn't have the experience back then.
                      You think the Hopkins in the vid posted was sloppy? That was the epitome of economical and technical. What were you watching?

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