P4P #2? Calzaghe or Pacquiao?

[K-Nan]

Remind me who Jones beat again?

At the end of the day, Joe Calzaghe's resume will NEVER be of the same caliber as Roy's.

The irony is that you're asking who Jones has fought, when Clazaghe is in the talks with a 42 year old, out-of-prime Bernard Hopkins. Preying on the older Hopkins, while Jones dominated a younger and prime Bernard.

[flat1985]

Hopkins will expose Joe. He'll beat him easily. Pavlik would KO him brutally. And Floyd would embarass him, yeah I said it.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

When does your school go back?

[RichCCFC]

Hopkins, Toney, McCallum, Harding, Woods, Hill and Kelley.

So basically he beat a Hopkins who was coming off the back of beating a journey man a weight drained Toney who Kessler would beat just as easy, and an old McCallum. Harding? Woods? Hill? Kelley? why put them there. Prime Kessler is better than any of the people you listed at the time they fought Jones.

[RichCCFC]

At the end of the day, Joe Calzaghe's resume will NEVER be of the same caliber as Roy's.

The irony is that you're asking who Jones has fought, when Clazaghe is in the talks with a 42 year old, out-of-prime Bernard Hopkins. Preying on the older Hopkins, while Jones dominated a younger and prime Bernard.

Prime Hopkins? Please...

Hopkins has aged well and has more ring smarts now than he did then, you could argue his prime was when he was late 30's.

[kayjay]

So basically he beat a Hopkins who was coming off the back of beating a journey man a weight drained Toney who Kessler would beat just as easy, and an old McCallum. Harding? Woods? Hill? Kelley? why put them there. Prime Kessler is better than any of the people you listed at the time they fought Jones.

Kessler is better than those people except Toney (and maybe, maybe Hopkins). They Toney who fought Jones was still a league above.

But Jones was better than Calzaghe is. Hopkins was never as good as Calzaghe, and Toney is a tough call. But Roy Jones at the time he fought Toney was better than them all

[Ray Ray]

So basically he beat a Hopkins who was coming off the back of beating a journey man a weight drained Toney who Kessler would beat just as easy, and an old McCallum. Harding? Woods? Hill? Kelley? why put them there. Prime Kessler is better than any of the people you listed at the time they fought Jones.

In all fairness Calzaghe's resume` is not even close to Roy's resume`. A prime James Toney would own Kessler at 168 so stop trying to belittle Roy's accomplishments.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Pacman:
Morales (twice both TKO/KO)
Barrera (Twice 1 KO)
Marquez (Should probably have the official win, due to a technicality, 3 KDs)

Calzaghe:
Lacy (1 KD)
Kessler

He stopped neither.

Calzaghe is undefeated, on ONLY his home turf, essentially and 20 some odd defenses. HOWEVER, Pacquaio has faced top notch opponent after top notch opponent. He could have gotten worthless belts but chased better fights, instead. And now he's going for the TRUE JR. LW title in his next fight. Losing only once in the last 7 years. He's also beaten more p4p fighters than Calzaghe has. Calzaghe has not even faced one, let alone beaten one. Pacman has faced three and gone 4-1-1 against them.

1. Mayweather.
2. Pacquiao.
3. Calzaghe.

BTW, I like all three fighters I just mentioned, but I call 'em how I see 'em.

[Run]

So basically he beat a Hopkins who was coming off the back of beating a journey man a weight drained Toney who Kessler would beat just as easy, and an old McCallum. Harding? Woods? Hill? Kelley? why put them there. Prime Kessler is better than any of the people you listed at the time they fought Jones.

Kessler beat who? Beyer? Mudine? It's not like the level of opponents he was facing were exactly that threatening. It's all great when a fighter is showy and can look great against mediocre opposition........if you're going to criticize Jones for not fighting the top guys; simply refer to Kessler.

lol yeah he "cleaned out" the SMW division and Calzaghe was the only person left to face. But do you realize the SMW division is easily one of the weakest in boxing and has been since it's formation in 1988?

Nobody even knows about, or cares about Super Middle Weights.

The money fights are in the divisions North and South. And it's too difficult to rate the "King of Super Middleweights" as the P4P wingman.

He made his career sitting in that division.



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[RichCCFC]

I think Toney was terrible against Jones, you got an arguement about the Toney who beat McCallum being better than Kessler but certainly not weight drained Toney who fought Jones.

[RichCCFC]

Roy's resume is better than Joe's but it still isn't great.