hey Vanes, I bet you would suck Vanes Martirosyan's **** behind close doors just so he can crack the top 15.
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Originally posted by No1 View Postbut he hasnt made more progress than those listed so it's all null and void.
Why compare to those below you why not compare with the likes of berto and povetkin??
After all in your opinion vanes is the big best thing.
For that to happen you have to take your time. Vanes is only 21 and 2008 will be his breakout year.. count on that.
If it was up to him, he would literally fight ANYONE right now, but of course Top Rank and Shelly have serious plans for him, and im sure you know that after all, this IS a business, a brutal one at that.
one day in the near future, Vanes will fight Berto, then we will know who's who.
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Originally posted by mercadojglb View Posthey Vanes, I bet you would suck Vanes Martirosyan's **** behind close doors just so he can crack the top 15.
****in kid, get lost u *****.
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Man, Martirosyan can CRACK. He hits lke a ****ing sledgehammer. And Chavez Jr. aint too far away from that.
Vanes is bigger, though. If he doesn't go all wild when (if) he hurts Chavez Jr., he would have a chance.
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Originally posted by Bonafide View PostBoth are waaay overrated fighters.
Dont think either of them will achieve upper echelon status but IMO if both ever fought Chavez Jr would beat him.
This fight would be a good fight second to the undercard of a mega fight.
I'll say it again show me any video of Vanes displaying qualities that make a great fighter and ill give you my honest opinion. Anyone can be aggresive on offense but was there any time where he had to show his heart and defensive skills??
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Originally posted by SalvaDominicano View Posti half agree with you. I havent seen enough of Vanes to make a decision but Jr. is overrated. He gets hit way too much and when he gets in there with someone who can hurt him and can move say bye bye to Jr.
I'll say it again show me any video of Vanes displaying qualities that make a great fighter and ill give you my honest opinion. Anyone can be aggresive on offense but was there any time where he had to show his heart and defensive skills??
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I am not a fan of both but to pick between the 2, i am going with Vanes cuz he has more boxing experience combining pro and amatuer. As far as pro career, both have fought bums, u do that to build up your record, to become known. I say that Jr. has faced tougher opponents cuz of no amatuer background.
As far as Berto losing to Vanes, well didn't Mike Tyson lost in the Olmpic trials then beat the same boxer in the pros(forgot the name). Didn't Cotto lost also in the Olympics but beat the same boxer in the pros(not sure of this one, just remembering from an HBO fight).
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Originally posted by loui_ludwig View PostI am not a fan of both but to pick between the 2, i am going with Vanes cuz he has more boxing experience combining pro and amatuer. As far as pro career, both have fought bums, u do that to build up your record, to become known. I say that Jr. has faced tougher opponents cuz of no amatuer background.
As far as Berto losing to Vanes, well didn't Mike Tyson lost in the Olmpic trials then beat the same boxer in the pros(forgot the name). Didn't Cotto lost also in the Olympics but beat the same boxer in the pros(not sure of this one, just remembering from an HBO fight).
the tyson guy is henry tillman
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