was Hatton really that good against Mayweather?

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  • PeROxiDE
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    #11
    Hatton said before the fight that where people go wrong with Floyd is throwing too many punches. Big shots that miss catch the eye more than little pitter pat punches that land, and thats why Hatton wasnt throwing that much. What he did throw wasnt of high enough quality though, but he worked hard enough to win at least 3 rounds, maybe even 4, but definitely no more.

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    • tredh
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      #12
      Actually he didn't do much in the way of actual fighting. Hatton accomplished making it a ugly fight. What I don't think Hatton counted on was how well PBF gave him the rough house stuff right back. All that mauling and rough house **** actually played a part in making Hatton tired besides the body and head shot that PBF was landing. That rough house **** is different when somebody is will to give it right back to you. I told people your stamina is different when you get hit more than you have ever been hit in your life. Hatton made the fight ugly but he didn't land any significant punches.

      People overrating Judah's performance. Judah won 3 rounds and was on his way to being KO'ed until the low blow and rabbit punch ****.

      Damn that shows how really great PBF is when its such an accomplishment for Judah to have won 3 rounds possibly 4 against PBF.

      Does anybdy have the official scorecards of the Judah-PBF fight?

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      • ßringer
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        #13
        Originally posted by PeROxiDE
        Hatton said before the fight that where people go wrong with Floyd is throwing too many punches. Big shots that miss catch the eye more than little pitter pat punches that land, and thats why Hatton wasnt throwing that much. What he did throw wasnt of high enough quality though, but he worked hard enough to win at least 3 rounds, maybe even 4, but definitely no more.
        I see no way to give Hatton any more than 2 rounds, and I'm a fan of his. I bet on him and really wanted him to win. He performed horribly.

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        • Ray*
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          #14
          Hatton's only chance was to make the fight Ugly, Once he was denied that he was a dead man walking...I actually think Philip Ndou did better than Hatton against PBF...Hatton gets credit because of his good nature thing.

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          • MELLY-MEL...
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            #15
            he was doing well and being competitive early, but once he lost the point he became careless, and got caught way to much! he let his anger dictate the fight, and forgot about his gameplan. he head hunted teh entire fight, abandoning his body attack!

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            • -Antonio-
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              #16
              Hatton did good in the sense that he kept Floyd from getting off a lot, but he did nothing at all offensively. He barely landed clean punches.

              He made Floyd break a sweat, not many people do that. I expected more though, Floyd wasnt even at his best. I thought he could have let his hands go more and would have had an easier time. It was clear that he was trying to set up one big counter though...

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              • boxing_pundit85
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                #17
                Originally posted by lyrical
                Come on guys lets get realistic. He landed one good shot in the first round and you can argue he won 2 rounds but he got knocked down after throwing the same sort of wide shot that Floyd was taking the piss out of in 24/7. His footwork on the night was terrible, he was getting beat on the inside and he tired early. He didnt do anywhere near as good as Judah and yet he is getting so much credit for his performance.
                hatton is a nice guy and a good boxer. he is not in floyds league and i dont see how he could have prepared adequately to fight him when he has not faced anyone nearly as talented in floyd in his entire career. he did alright for his abilities, but he never really had much of a chance outside landing something flush that could hurt floyd.

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                • Franko
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The_Bringer
                  Hatton was doing a solid job early. Granted he wasn't winning rounds but he was doing a solid job establishing his pace, and pressuring Floyd. The problem is he wasn't landing or throwing enough. There were a lot of times when he could've landed something big but he'd opt to walk in and wrestle Floyd to the ropes.

                  Either he didn't have a strategy or he completely abandoned it early in the fight. Mayweather never wore down even with the constrant clinching/wrestling routine. Had Hatton have had an actual gameplan, who knows. But landing 6 punches a round and walking into everything your opponet throws will not win you a fight.
                  I posted this on another thread....

                  The bottom line is it would had to have been an outstanding performance for Hatton to beat Mayweather, and that's despite the usually top notch Joe Cortez having a bad night. There is no doubt in my mind that the occasion got to Hatton a little bit, but he didn't do himself any favours with his Gung-Ho approach... That sort of approach was never going to work on Mayweather. I was in favour of the consistent pressure that Hatton was talking about applying prior to the fight, but it just wasn't controlled. He was attacking in straight lines, not using any angles, and not going to the body as often as he should have done... Basically, he was head hunting and looking to knock Mayweather out, especially after the cut. Although i rate Hatton a very good fighter, he does have flaws that Mayweather exposed further (although they have been evident throughout his career, even in his best performance against Tszyu), and i really believe that questions have to be asked of his trainer Billy Graham. My reason being that Hatton has natural talent that he hasn't developed. Again (as in another of my posts) that may sound daft due to the fact that Hatton was unbeaten prior to fighting Mayweather, but i honestly believe that Graham is lacking something tactically & technically.

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                  • Tuggers1986
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                    #19
                    I don't think he was good at all.

                    To be honest though I think the real case was Floyd just made him look bad because Floyd is THAT good.

                    Against any other fighter Hatton would have looked faster, more shots would have landed. The pressure fighting would have been more effective etc...

                    Hatton looking so bad just goes to prove that Floyd is SO good

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                    • frankpaganini
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by lyrical
                      Come on guys lets get realistic. He landed one good shot in the first round and you can argue he won 2 rounds but he got knocked down after throwing the same sort of wide shot that Floyd was taking the piss out of in 24/7. His footwork on the night was terrible, he was getting beat on the inside and he tired early. He didnt do anywhere near as good as Judah and yet he is getting so much credit for his performance.
                      In my opinion hatton fought his heart out.

                      it wasnt his BEST performance but certainly his best effort.

                      In the first 4 rounds (about) Hatton was controlling the fight for the most part; he made floyd fight his fight. hatton kept the pressure on and kept the fight at close quarters.

                      after about the 4th round floyd made that adjustment and he was getting use to hatton's speed (compared to that of de la hoya) and then floyd was controlling the fight.

                      Anyone who did their homework for this fight knew hatton wasnt going attempt to box floyd.

                      everyone says hatton had a 6 inch reach DISadvantage but i beg to differ.

                      Hatton likes to fight on the inside and trade with you its a GOOD thing he has the shorter arms that way he can be inside and get full power while the longer armed fighter (floyd mayweather) needs to be on the outside to get full reach and force into his punches.

                      floyd's arms are longer but it was hatton advantage.

                      The problem for hatton was he was VERY ineffective with the jab (17% or something like that) and he wasnt taking his time; he was just charging for the kill for most of the fight.

                      And floyd made him pay.

                      so no i dont give hatton credit for some great strategy but i give him all the credit in the world for his effort.

                      mayweather's strategy of trading with hatton for the most part was far more interesting to me than hatton's strategy.

                      we all seen hatton's strategy a mile away...but not many would have guessed mayweather would fight hatton's fight (fighting close; pushing shoving, holding/hitting, etc.)

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