Can Floyd Be The Best Fighter Ever

[Dynamite Kid]

People you can't fight whats not there. PBF has all time great skills, smarts and ability but he does not have all time great competition. Thats not PBF's fault that those around him do not have all time great abililty. So I say no he can't be the best fighter ever. But I will say this no matter what era you put PBF in he would be one of the best fighters in that era.

Also people saying he hasn't won certain fights in spectacular fashion I don't understand. Since when has a fighter facing another very good fighter supposed to be a blowout. Ali-Frazier series weren't blowouts, Leonard-Hearns series weren't blowouts. That **** don't make sense. When you step up your competition the fight is supposed to be close and that is what makes the winner great because he beat his biggest threats. So I don't understand people downgrading PBF's performances against his so called toughest fights. He won and thats all that matters. You supposed to beat and possibly blowout fighters beneath you in terms of skill, smarts and ability and he has done that.

Floyd claims he is the best ever though surely to be the best u have to fight the best or if u dont have the level of oposition u have to do what RJJ did & do the unthinkable & pull it off ,Floyd has no intention of doing anything like fight at middleweight he is stalling on fighting Cotto at the minute so how can he consider himself as the best fighter ever

he has the options out there available to him maybe not his weight class but if he wants to be seen as 1 of the top 5 p4p fighters of all time he has to take those opurtunities ,not pad his record with old & shot fighters like Gatti ,Judah ,Dela Hoya & claim he did 'nt have the oposition in his era ,

he wont be the best fighter ever because he wont take risks ,he has the talent to prove he is & there are steps he can take to be seen to be trying to prove that IMO i hope he does do it i would love him to do it unfortunatley his "0" means more to him than his legacy

[tredh]

Floyd claims he is the best ever though surely to be the best u have to fight the best or if u dont have the level of oposition u have to do what RJJ did & do the unthinkable & pull it off ,Floyd has no intention of doing anything like fight at middleweight he is stalling on fighting Cotto at the minute so how can he consider himself as the best fighter ever

he has the options out there available to him maybe not his weight class but if he wants to be seen as 1 of the top 5 p4p fighters of all time he has to take those opurtunities ,not pad his record with old & shot fighters like Gatti ,Judah ,Dela Hoya & claim he did 'nt have the oposition in his era ,

he wont be the best fighter ever because he wont take risks ,he has the talent to prove he is & there are steps he can take to be seen to be trying to prove that IMO i hope he does do it i would love him to do it unfortunatley his "0" means more to him than his legacy

PBF can say he's the best ever all he wants to. That doesn't mean its true. **** I can say I'm the most handsome man to ever walk this earth and it can be true to me but many other would not agree with me. Just because people don't agree doesn't mean I can't say it and I shouldn't believe it if that how I feel.
Even if Roy Jones would have retired after beating Ruiz for the heavyweight title he would not have been the best ever so PBF going up to middleweight and winning the title would not put him at best ever either all though it would put him closer to it than Jones was for winning the heavyweight title. People look at who Jones beat for that title not just the fact that he won the title.

Every fighter in the history of the sport has a padded record some have more pad than others. What weight class do you want PBF to go to? Honestly speaking he is very small for welter weight. How many fighters can you name that don't put on weight after the weigh-in? Cotto and those other dudes weigh-in at 147 but on fight night they come into in the ring at about middleweight. That **** ain't fair to be honest. All this talk about PBF not having power or engaging in more toe to toe fights wouldn't even be a question if he choose to drain himself to stay at 135. PBF would be giving people like Juan Diaz and Manny Paciquiao brain damage with all the punches they take. That **** wouldn't be fair either.

No I don't think PBF should go that far out of his comfort range in weight for him to be considered the best ever. I get what you are saying if PBF reaches for the moon and misses he will still be amoungst the stars. But is the price he may pay in damage to his body worth it? Only he can answer that not you, me or anybody else.

[SkillspayBills]

For Floyd to be the greatest ever he would have to unify the WW division and tahn win the legitimate MW championsip. It sounds like alot because it SHOULD BE alot to reach these almost impossible goals that some of the greats have reached.

[Dynamite Kid]

PBF can say he's the best ever all he wants to. That doesn't mean its true. **** I can say I'm the most handsome man to ever walk this earth and it can be true to me but many other would not agree with me. Just because people don't agree doesn't mean I can't say it and I shouldn't believe it if that how I feel.
Even if Roy Jones would have retired after beating Ruiz for the heavyweight title he would not have been the best ever so PBF going up to middleweight and winning the title would not put him at best ever either all though it would put him closer to it than Jones was for winning the heavyweight title. People look at who Jones beat for that title not just the fact that he won the title.

Every fighter in the history of the sport has a padded record some have more pad than others. What weight class do you want PBF to go to? Honestly speaking he is very small for welter weight. How many fighters can you name that don't put on weight after the weigh-in? Cotto and those other dudes weigh-in at 147 but on fight night they come into in the ring at about middleweight. That **** ain't fair to be honest. All this talk about PBF not having power or engaging in more toe to toe fights wouldn't even be a question if he choose to drain himself to stay at 135. PBF would be giving people like Juan Diaz and Manny Paciquiao brain damage with all the punches they take. That **** wouldn't be fair either.

No I don't think PBF should go that far out of his comfort range in weight for him to be considered the best ever. I get what you are saying if PBF reaches for the moon and misses he will still be amoungst the stars. But is the price he may pay in damage to his body worth it? Only he can answer that not you, me or anybody else.

i was'nt comparing him to RJJ i was just stating that there ways of searching for challenges to prove yourself regardless of your competition

i dont care if Floyd is a 6 weight world champion IMO he has 1 possibly 2 Elite fighters on his record Dela Hoya Possibly Hatton ,please dont trot out Castillo ,Corrales both are not great lightweights like J C Chavez ,Mosley,Duran we all know that ,just cause they had a great fight together dont mean **** IMO

PBF can push his legacy on a lot further IMO but he doesnt wanna take the risks to do that ,i dont care if u think he could batter Pacquiao or Juan Diaz i wanna see him share a ring with more Elite figters like Pacquiao that is the only way your theory will be proved that he can do that to Pacquiao or not ,Nobody thought Forrest would do to Mosley what he did or Tarver to RJJ for that matter u cannot just dismiss fighters untill they have fought each other

to be the best u have to FIGHT the best

[bluemax]

Floyd's a great fighter but to be called the best fighter ever!! Come on!! What legendary fighters has he fought and beaten when they were at the top of there game, none!!! Floyds the best lightweight and Jr. Welterweight of this era but that's it!!! Fighting a fighter like Roberto Duran when both were in there prime as lightweights, poor Floyd would have to be visited at the nursing home until he recovered from the coma Duran would have put him in!!! People have to stop believing the media hype which builds up fights like when Floyd fought the should be retired Dela Hoya! [and really is]!! Don't confuse media ballony with actual skill. Like Hatton really had a chance against Mayweather, why isn't Floyd fighting the real welterweights if he's so good. money??? ok thats reasonable but don't run around saying your the best current welterweight when you won't fight any. Same thing Taylor did as Middleweight champion then he fought a real live middleweight and welll,...you saw what happened.

[JJay]

In the ring....as a fighter...skills wise?...no...obviously he is one of the most talented boxers ever...however i can think of one boxer in his own era who is more skilled then him in his prime..so when u find one in his own era..and u look back over 100 years of boxing..im sure you can find a few more...btw...im talking about RJJ. Much more complete boxer i think

[SkillspayBills]

If he beats Cotto and then somehow beats Williams(who I can't see much of a way for him to beat) I will have him top 15 of all time. I seriously doubt he does that though. If he did that I wouldn't have a problem with someone rating him above Whitaker even. But as I said, I seriously doubt he can or will even attempt to do that.

Coming from you, I would DEFINITELY have to take that statement seriously.

[Dynamite Kid]

lmao what a clown who the **** is Paul Williams a nobody

[tredh]

For Floyd to be the greatest ever he would have to unify the WW division and tahn win the legitimate MW championsip. It sounds like alot because it SHOULD BE alot to reach these almost impossible goals that some of the greats have reached.

I know this is going to sound kind of wierd but I think it was easier for those old fighters to reach those levels even though quality of competition was better. With day of the fight weigh-ins it was some what eaiser for a welter weight to fight a middle weight because it would be a detriment for the middle weight to go from 160 to 175 within a few hours of the fight. Putting on all that water weight with a fight in a few hours is not whats best for the body. Now you have people fighting at weights they have no business fighting at because they weigh-in days before the fight so these fighters can hydrate they're bodies back to the weight they really should be at. It makes no sense to me that Clottey came in to the ring for a welter weight fight against Corrales weighing 165-170 lbs. That **** is not right and that fight should have never taken place. Manny Pacqiuao should be allowed to fight at 130 lbs coming into the ring on fight night weighing 144 lbs. **** like that is basically cheating.

[Mr. Ryan]

That's not for this era to decide. We know Ray Leonard and Ray Robinson were great because we still talk about them today. We'll find out in 20 years if he's the best ever.