Mayweather has fought B LEVEL since castillo?

[Wiley Hyena]

Didn't fight better comp at 140, and was less accomplished? Who gives a ****? Are you honestly basing this fight comletely on the WEIGHT CLASS?? On who he's fought ONLY at 140? So nothing of his other accomplishments matter, right?

Understand your point. But Tszyu fought at 140 his whole professional career. So when we're talking about Tszyu, we're talking about 140. He owned that division to be blunt about it.

[slicksouthpaw16]

My point is so simple yet the self-proclaimed smartest guy on this forum can't get it. Dominicano, that's you I am referring to.

Ricky's win over Tzsuy was against a prime and elite fighter at the time who was recognized by all media, and he stopped him. Floyd's win over Dlh was against a fighter past his prime, and he split-decisioned him. Wow! Was this so hard to comprehend

Oscar trained his ass off for that fight. he would have been a force to be reckoned with against any fighter that night.

[pesticid]

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Floyd walked through Sharmba. Enough said.

Stop weaseling. Floyd walked through Sharmba at 147 after Tzsuy had already destroyed him mentally and physically twice.

[K-Nan]

Understand your point. But Tszyu fought at 140 his whole professional career. So when we're talking about Tszyu, we're talking about 140. He owned that division to be blunt about it.

Which discredits him even further, in a sense. Oscar transcended any single weight division. So narrowing the argument down to simply a 140 comparison is severely limiting the argument for Oscar, compared to what you could say if we were comparing bothe men's careers.

[Wiley Hyena]

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Do I need to pull up any of the six threads where you got owned about KT?

You lost every single poll.

Gotta hop. While I'm gone, Wiley, post a predictable response about Tszyu.

Nite

Typical Dios post. Lie and leave. You'll never get over how owned you've consistently been regarding Kostya Tszyu. Oh well.....nite.

[pesticid]

Floyd didn't fight Oscar at 140. Floyd fought Oscar at 154.

All that talk is meaningless.

A journeyman wiped his ass with Kostya Tszyu. Who did Oscar lose to? Hall of famers?

A JOURNEYMAN WIPED HIS ASS WITH MIKE TYSON

[Wiley Hyena]

Which discredits him even further, in a sense. Oscar transcended any single weight division. So narrowing the argument down to simply a 140 comparison is severely limiting the argument for Oscar, compared to what you could say if we were comparing bothe men's careers.

Well you can see it as you want to see it. I don't think Tszyu defending 140 his whole career is a discredit to him at all. There is something to say for a fighter that successfully moves up when naturally smaller. But, IMO it discredits a boxer to merely jump up and fight lesser fighters to claim just another of the many belts that are out there.

Oscar may have "transcended" any single weight division. But, the fact is that he never "transcended" Tszyu at 140. Never. Tszyu will go down as one of the great JRWWs. Oscar's not on that list.

[pesticid]

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Oscar trained his ass off for that fight. he would have been a force to be reckoned with against any fighter that night.

Nah, you're just saying that cause it was against your boy Floyd, and it was oh so close.

[slicksouthpaw16]

A JOURNEYMAN WIPED HIS ASS WITH MIKE TYSON

Tyszu didn't lose to hall of famers. he lost to Hatton and Phillips. LOL! Oscar lost to Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins and Mayweather. all hall of famers.

[sonofisis]

Bigger? Not at 140.

I don't see the logic here.

Better? Not at 140.

How do you suppose that?

Faster? Perhaps.

Definitely, not perhaps.

Fought better comp? Not at 140.

Julio Cesar Chavez + Miguel Angel Gonzalez >> anybody Tszyu has faced at 140 (even though Tszyu faced Gonzalez later).

Healthier? Perhaps.

He's definitely more healthy, not perhaps. He's even still active.

Accomplished? Not at 140.

Irrelevant. De La Hoya is more accomplished overall and fought Floyd at 154.

Younger? Just barely.

Still younger.

Better chin? I don't agree.

I do

Stronger? Not at 140.

How would you figure that? I'd say Oscar's left hook beats Tszyu's right hand any day.

More powerful?.....Tszyu is more powerful.

Of course Oscar still knocking out opponents at 154 while Tszyu couldn't even hurt Hatton or Vince Philips would argue against that.[/quote]

Better counterpuncher?......Tszyu was better.

Indicated by what, or are you just making a silly claim for the sake of disagreement?

At 140 Oscar loses to Tszyu.

Nonsense. Tszyu loses to JCC and JCC loses to De La Hoya.

But, then again Oscar had his chance to fight Tszyu at 140. It never happened. He allowed himself to be stripped rather than fight Tszyu.

Yes, to fight a much much better opponent in Pernell Whitaker.