More impressive: Pea-Chavez or PBF-Chico?

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  • Sweet Pete
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    #31
    Originally posted by DWiens421
    Maybe I just suck ass at scoring... I didn't see Whitaker dominate Chavez, nor did I see Mayweather crush Genaro Hernandez... that looked a lot closer to me than everyone seems to think it was.

    I didn't actually sit there and try to score Whitaker-Chavez like a judge, but I was watching and trying to keep a mental tally of who was getting the best of it... obviously it was Whitaker, but not by much in my estimation, and that's not to say that he didn't win a lot of the rounds, but he didn't totally spoil Chavez's gameplan like everyone seems to make it out to be.
    Alright, but boxing is a round by round game. He wasn't completely dominating him, but he was winning most of the rounds clearly.

    Mayweather did dominate Hernandez though.

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    • Fox McCloud
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      #32
      Originally posted by Sweet Pete
      Alright, but boxing is a round by round game. He wasn't completely dominating him, but he was winning most of the rounds clearly.

      Mayweather did dominate Hernandez though.
      I know it's round by round, but when I think about absolute dominations, I think Calzaghe-Lacy, De La Hoya-Mayorga or Mayweather-Gatti... not Whitaker-Chavez. I mean, he clearly won, but everyone was talking about it being the worst robbery ever... there have been worse. Like the scoring of Douglas-Tyson at the point of stoppage, or Chuck Giampa having Chavez ahead of Meldrick Taylor when the TKO happened.

      I didn't see that much of a domination, I thought Floyd was clearly winning the rounds, but didn't actually start kicking Hernandez's ass until the later rounds... it was a good performance, but it wasn't like Hernandez was afraid to show his face after the fight.

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        #33
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        I know it's round by round, but when I think about absolute dominations, I think Calzaghe-Lacy, De La Hoya-Mayorga or Mayweather-Gatti... not Whitaker-Chavez. I mean, he clearly won, but everyone was talking about it being the worst robbery ever... there have been worse. Like the scoring of Douglas-Tyson at the point of stoppage, or Chuck Giampa having Chavez ahead of Meldrick Taylor when the TKO happened.
        I didn't see that much of a domination, I thought Floyd was clearly winning the rounds, but didn't actually start kicking Hernandez's ass until the later rounds... it was a good performance, but it wasn't like Hernandez was afraid to show his face after the fight.
        I thought Whitaker did better against Chavez for sure than Meldrick. I had Meldrick up 8 rounds to 3 going into the final, but while winning the fight on points based on landing more punches, he was the one taking the beating. Whitaker on the other hand, while winning a similar amount of rounds, was taking almost no punishment, and actually had Chavez backing up toward the mid to later rounds.

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        • Slotff
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          #34
          Did Chavez get knocked down 5 times?

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            #35
            wy is this poll n ot ****ing public....i would put the ****s who picked floyd on ignore....

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            • wmute
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              #36
              I agree with everything oldgringo said.

              I would also: add Roger Mayweather to the list of JC's impressive wins.

              Edit: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to oldgringo again.
              Last edited by wmute; 11-29-2007, 06:59 PM.

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              • The Noose
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                #37
                Originally posted by Slotff
                Did Chavez get knocked down 5 times?
                Chavez and Corrales are a diifferent calibre of chin.

                Chavez is ATG material. Corrales had a impressive record but is only associated with his amazing fight with Castillo and his loss to Floyd.

                So how great Corrales was can maybe be a measuring stick as to how great Floyds win was.
                And likewise of Whitaker-Chavez.

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                • BennyST
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                  #38
                  Just to have beaten Chavez at the time was the most impressive thing that could have possibly happened. I think people are forgetting the aura and invincibility that surrounded Chavez (he had beaten A LOT of great fighters along with his bums at the start). For Whittaker to not only beat him but do it clearly was huge. A massive upset. Of even greater proportions because of the greatness of both the fighters. Chavez was a bit over the hill and above his dominant weight but it was still a much more impressive victory than Mayweather vs Corrales.

                  While a lot of people said Corrales was a huge puncher and better than anyone Floyd had faced, many thought Mayweather would still win. I personally think there was something wrong with Corrales that night. He didn't seem to be on at all. I can't even remember one time where he jabbed as he walked in. He just kept on walking straight in without throwing a damn thing. Yes, by the end that was because of Mayweather hitting him so much but he didn't even do it at the start.

                  Nonetheless, I don't think anyone apart from Floyd would have beaten Corrales the way Mayweather did that night. But still, in a cosmic kind of sense Whittaker over Chavez was much more impressive.

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                  • Piggu
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                    #39
                    The question is "more impressive". How can anyone say Floyd-Diego? Chavez was 87-0 and had already beaten "Rock-a-bye" Ruben Castillo, Roger Mayweather, Rocky Lockridge, Juan Laporte, Edwin rosario, Rafael "Bazooka" Limon, Jose Luis Ramirez, Meldrick Taylor and Hector Camachoo. It's not even close.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Slotff
                      Did Chavez get knocked down 5 times?
                      Corrales chin was ****. Chavez was a warrior, you can't compare his chin to Diego Corrales'.

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